Divorce settlement data - WC education thread

[damong777]

A lawyer specialising in family law is preferred to a normal lawyer. Do some homework before engaging one.

My friend made a mistake in lawyer choice and end up broke with poor advice.

[iluvbreast]

Originally Posted by JacqueMerlin

https://www.singaporelawwatch.sg/Hea...-than-500-cash

Someone didn't take his shot carefully.

This is an example of a stupid lawyer, one must never engage him, sure die.

How he expect others to believe, after he managed to set up his own law firm, made so much money previously and suddenly only have less than $500 in his account under no particularly adverse circumstances??

He is like that lawyer SY Wong, idiotic to the max.

[HonkyTonkyMan]

Length of marriage: 7 years
Number of kids:1
Was wife working when divorce happened? What salary bracket if so?: No but she more or less considered self employed cos i contributed 50k to help her set up shop selling kids clothing but went bust after 1 year. I was also self employed income not stable but she some how managed to get bank statements from my company tend showing sales over 1 mil (damn that is revenue not even nett profit)...so bro if you have a company keep your wives away from the accounts, they will use this to bite you in the ass..
Custody of kids: Ex took full custody
Monthly maintenance: Initially 1.1k but after 1 year varied down to 900
Mode: contested divorce
Marital property: HDB given to wife, already paid nearly 100k, court make me potong 50% of what i had paid from CPF to her....CPF came after me to pay back the 50% if not I won't be able to withdraw name from HDB which contravene court order given to me to get everything settled in 3 months..

In the end court made me pay all parties cost and even when i made request later for variation order on maintenance, i was made to pay her lawyer cost which according to a few other lawyers is highly irregular..

[iBitch69]

Originally Posted by JacqueMerlin

https://www.singaporelawwatch.sg/Hea...-than-500-cash

Someone didn't take his shot carefully.

Maybe give his money to 小三 ??

[ahgore]

Originally Posted by HonkyTonkyMan

Length of marriage: 7 years
Number of kids:1
Was wife working when divorce happened? What salary bracket if so?: No but she more or less considered self employed cos i contributed 50k to help her set up shop selling kids clothing but went bust after 1 year. I was also self employed income not stable but she some how managed to get bank statements from my company tend showing sales over 1 mil (damn that is revenue not even nett profit)...so bro if you have a company keep your wives away from the accounts, they will use this to bite you in the ass..
Custody of kids: Ex took full custody
Monthly maintenance: Initially 1.1k but after 1 year varied down to 900
Mode: contested divorce
Marital property: HDB given to wife, already paid nearly 100k, court make me potong 50% of what i had paid from CPF to her....CPF came after me to pay back the 50% if not I won't be able to withdraw name from HDB which contravene court order given to me to get everything settled in 3 months..

In the end court made me pay all parties cost and even when i made request later for variation order on maintenance, i was made to pay her lawyer cost which according to a few other lawyers is highly irregular..

In the end.. only lawyers are the ones laughing.

[iluvbreast]

Originally Posted by HonkyTonkyMan

Length of marriage: 7 years
Number of kids:1
Was wife working when divorce happened? What salary bracket if so?: No but she more or less considered self employed cos i contributed 50k to help her set up shop selling kids clothing but went bust after 1 year. I was also self employed income not stable but she some how managed to get bank statements from my company tend showing sales over 1 mil (damn that is revenue not even nett profit)...so bro if you have a company keep your wives away from the accounts, they will use this to bite you in the ass..
Custody of kids: Ex took full custody
Monthly maintenance: Initially 1.1k but after 1 year varied down to 900
Mode: contested divorce
Marital property: HDB given to wife, already paid nearly 100k, court make me potong 50% of what i had paid from CPF to her....CPF came after me to pay back the 50% if not I won't be able to withdraw name from HDB which contravene court order given to me to get everything settled in 3 months..

In the end court made me pay all parties cost and even when i made request later for variation order on maintenance, i was made to pay her lawyer cost which according to a few other lawyers is highly irregular..

Bro HonkyTonkyMan, if you don't mind disclosing (just out of curiosity), your wife's shop went busted or were going busted during the time of divorce? Also were you a shareholder or director of that shop you set up for your wife? Lastly your company statement showing > 1m in revenue, was it once off or it is within the norm?

[HonkyTonkyMan]

Originally Posted by iluvbreast

Bro HonkyTonkyMan, if you don't mind disclosing (just out of curiosity), your wife's shop went busted or were going busted during the time of divorce? Also were you a shareholder or director of that shop you set up for your wife? Lastly your company statement showing > 1m in revenue, was it once off or it is within the norm?

At time of divorce shop already closed down....I was not a shareholder or director the shop then was jointly operated with her sister..the 1m revenue statement was for the year before our divorce proceedings...before that i was actually a salaried man...

[iluvbreast]

Originally Posted by HonkyTonkyMan

At time of divorce shop already closed down....I was not a shareholder or director the shop then was jointly operated with her sister..the 1m revenue statement was for the year before our divorce proceedings...before that i was actually a salaried man...

I see, so if I am not wrong, then your wife (through her lawyer) would have presented a case to the judge that:
1. She should be have most of care & control since she has always be primary care giver.
2. She have problem (after divorcing since she needed to continue caring for your child) and need to re-enter work force.
3. Whereas you are doing relatively well because you are running your own business.

In essence, your 1.1K was actually maintenance your child even though your ex has full custody (something I don't understand, did you gave that up or was it care & control that she have?)

Only thing I don't get is why have to pay for her lawyer, this is something very out of character but then again, sometimes strange things happened.

[HonkyTonkyMan]

Originally Posted by iluvbreast

I see, so if I am not wrong, then your wife (through her lawyer) would have presented a case to the judge that:
1. She should be have most of care & control since she has always be primary care giver.
2. She have problem (after divorcing since she needed to continue caring for your child) and need to re-enter work force.
3. Whereas you are doing relatively well because you are running your own business.

In essence, your 1.1K was actually maintenance your child even though your ex has full custody (something I don't understand, did you gave that up or was it care & control that she have?)

Only thing I don't get is why have to pay for her lawyer, this is something very out of character but then again, sometimes strange things happened.

The judge didn't even take into consideration the money i had taken out to help her set up her shop and it was not due to me that her business went bust...maybe the judge thinking i earn lots of money but the irony of it all, i myself business went bust and in the end had to declare bankruptcy but went back to vary the maintenance amount only lowered by a couple of hundreds..
She had full custody not even joint in my case...
Yes you are right regarding full cost all to me, as I said a few lawyers said it was most unusual..

[Datingafter35]

Now I know why Leonardo Dicaprio always bang young chicks. Won't be asked to settle down.

I'll get one who has buying power.

[LooksLikeJesus]

FYI, prenuptial agreement is not recognised in Singapore marital courts

https://singaporelegaladvice.com/law...nts-singapore/

https://irblaw.com.sg/learning-centr...al-agreements/

https://www.expatdivorce.sg/internat...-in-singapore/

[YELLOW]

We should scrap WC.....

[Greendevil]

Gentleman, WC is only an old name on a valid legislations. If you red thru the clause carefully, there is nothing gender inequality written in the language. What many bros failed here is that they didnt protray the right image in the divorce settlement.

My case, it happen over a decade ago so maybe thing now have change:

Length of marriage:8 years
Number of kids:1
Was wife working when divorce happened? What salary bracket if so? Yes . Earning 3k but have large saving. Myself was earning 5k back then, but was paying everything for the household from start while she saved her money.
Custody of kids: (under wife or husband)I got it
Monthly maintenance:$0.00. Yes it is zero.
Mode: contested divorce. initially i offer 50-50 split right down to the end on the HDB, no maintenance. but she wanted 80/20 and with maintenance.
Marital property: (sold and split proceeds, or given to wife)
sold on open market.
FJ (Final judgement not full job)
was given 92% to me and 8% to her, and she wanted to appeal. dont want to drag on another court session, finally give her 12% and if dont take the 12%, I made her pay for subsequent court session and lawyer fee.

Very impt, rights for sale of HDB solely under myself.

my advice to all bros here, remember divorce case in Singapore take minimum from 3 months to over years. 3 month case is assuming both parties divroce amicably. but in reality less than 1% of the case is resolve amicably. Cos there are out of courts or informal neg before reaches it.

In other words, you need to prepare for a long battle of at least a year. you need to protray you are the victim in the case as much as possible and your story line and image need to be consistent throughout. There will be many instances where you receive a letter /mail from your lawyer or ex that make you blow your top. Many are in a fit of anger or high emotion when replying. You need to keep cool, think long term and strategy. one wrong move in the chess may cost you the game.

[LooksLikeJesus]

" there is nothing gender inequality written in the language."

I beg to differ, written and interpretation are 2 very different actions. You need to understand that this is a very gynocentric society. To put it bluntly, putting pussy on a pedestal. The martial courts are skewed towards the females, albeit not as bad as the west.

In Sg, it is the only place whereby a PM can be promoted to Senior PM, a person holding a pc of placeholder can be be charged under illegal assembly. Despite these situations have nothing to do with martial laws and issues. But this is an indicator and predictor of the courts' judgement.

However, you are not wrong in advising men to reply in a calm, cordial and rational manner.

[Beretta]

Originally Posted by Greendevil

My case, it happen over a decade ago so maybe thing now have change.

Divorce proceedings have changed drastically from 10 years ago. The procedures are so different now from years ago that even lawyers themselves who were out of the scene for just a few years find themselves lost and not sure what to do now.