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Old 05-12-2020, 12:35 AM
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Marital rape

I wanted to discuss this.

Marital rape is now a crime here. This is a good move to protect women who have been sexually abused by their husbands and prevent any abusive husbands from raping his wife.

But as the saying goes, “every solution breeds new problems”.

Now what happens if the wife use this law to her fullest advantage and refused sex to her husband even though she is not unwell or tired? What can the husband do? What if the husband is expected to continue provide for her and the family whilst she never give him sex and happily give it to other men she likes? The other men for sure did not commit any crime as long as she consent to it.

If we men can no longer get sex from the woman we can make sexual advances to, then is marriage still worth it? Should the husband resort to hookers since his wife will never give him sex? And hookers will definitely give men sex as long as its paid.

I dont wish to get married as I have long list of reasons of why I think marriage doesn’t benefit me at all. And this new law is the latest one on my list.

Im not condoning that husbands should just raped their wives. But i think something should be done for a situation like I mentioned above.

What you bros think? Perhaps you can give some advice and ideas.
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Old 05-12-2020, 12:52 AM
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Re: Marital rape

In that case, then it's nothing wrong cheating on her, if she can't or don't wish to give the attention a husband needs. Especially when you know you have done nothing wrong
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Old 05-12-2020, 09:07 AM
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I wanted to discuss this.

Marital rape is now a crime here. This is a good move to protect women who have been sexually abused by their husbands and prevent any abusive husbands from raping his wife.

But as the saying goes, “every solution breeds new problems”.

Now what happens if the wife use this law to her fullest advantage and refused sex to her husband even though she is not unwell or tired? What can the husband do? What if the husband is expected to continue provide for her and the family whilst she never give him sex and happily give it to other men she likes? The other men for sure did not commit any crime as long as she consent to it.

If we men can no longer get sex from the woman we can make sexual advances to, then is marriage still worth it? Should the husband resort to hookers since his wife will never give him sex? And hookers will definitely give men sex as long as its paid.

I dont wish to get married as I have long list of reasons of why I think marriage doesn’t benefit me at all. And this new law is the latest one on my list.

Im not condoning that husbands should just raped their wives. But i think something should be done for a situation like I mentioned above.

What you bros think? Perhaps you can give some advice and ideas.
I think only small percentage of people encounter such cruel wives. Get evidence and sue the wife and get divorce.

I suspect they didn't really love each other in the first place. Imagine if you love your dog a lot but you realise the woman you going to marry does not feel more important than your dog and merely a person whom you can finally fuck with, its a red flag to break up.

Nowadays it feels more like a burden to be tied down to a girl because there are many other pussies to fuck. And if you get tired of fucking your wife, you have a burden on hand if you don't love her in first place. You will know it if you find her a burden after sex. Unless really got special feeling which is rare, its quite meaningless to marry just for the sake of it.
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Old 05-12-2020, 09:46 AM
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Re: Marital rape

Find a wife who won’t withold sex? And there are many men too who weaponise sex by withholding it from their wives.

If a man married a woman who used such a law to her maximum advantage as you so put it, the joke is probably on the man for marrying someone like that, and then putting up with it.
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Re: Marital rape

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Find a wife who won’t withold sex? And there are many men too who weaponise sex by withholding it from their wives.

If a man married a woman who used such a law to her maximum advantage as you so put it, the joke is probably on the man for marrying someone like that, and then putting up with it.
Not many women now are wife material. And just because you go looking for it, doesn’t mean you will get it. If the man decided to do something about it i hope it goes well for him since the law always favor women.

Humans change from time to time. Today your wife maybe will make love to you then next day she is not keen anymore.

I had one FL who told me one of her clients shared his wife did not give him sex for 8 years after she had given birth.
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Old 05-12-2020, 12:05 PM
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Re: Marital rape

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I think only small percentage of people encounter such cruel wives. Get evidence and sue the wife and get divorce.

I suspect they didn't really love each other in the first place. Imagine if you love your dog a lot but you realise the woman you going to marry does not feel more important than your dog and merely a person whom you can finally fuck with, its a red flag to break up.

Nowadays it feels more like a burden to be tied down to a girl because there are many other pussies to fuck. And if you get tired of fucking your wife, you have a burden on hand if you don't love her in first place. You will know it if you find her a burden after sex. Unless really got special feeling which is rare, its quite meaningless to marry just for the sake of it.
I agree bro. No point get married just because of sex only or just because the girl is pretty. For me sorry to say but i need women for sex and companionship only. Besides that they dont bring anything else to the table. I feel that not many people now married for the sake of love. Most married for the wrong reasons.
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Old 05-12-2020, 12:09 PM
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Re: Marital rape

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In that case, then it's nothing wrong cheating on her, if she can't or don't wish to give the attention a husband needs. Especially when you know you have done nothing wrong
Well I hope the husband can get justice if he decided to pursue the matter.
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I feel that not many people now married for the sake of love. Most married for the wrong reasons.
I think ppl still marry due to love but both parties don't continue to work at their rs after tying the knot.
The way I see it is that getting married is the easy part but staying married is the tough part.
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Old 06-12-2020, 03:15 PM
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Re: Marital rape

When a man marries a woman. If a woman refuses to provide sexual intercourse for her husband. It is essentially a breach of contract. This applies to the husband as well, if he refuses to provide financial support for the wife and their children.

This concept of marital rape no doubt may be traumatic for the wife, but the husband has rights as well. A contract is a contract, or at least it's used to be. Now, it's just a non reciprocation deal for the husband. The sex slowly dies down to a mechanical chore, hardly any dinner being prepared, expected to "share" (more like overtaking) all the household chores, no fault divorce, etc etc. 2nd, prenups are not recognised in the SG marital courts, this is very important for those men who are rich.

Outlawing marital rape is just an icing to the cake, to an already shitty deal for most men. Singaporean men have largely become meek and docile creatures just like their western counterparts. Several samsters addressed their spouse as "OC" (WTF?). Very soon, ex-husbands will be paying alimony and child support through their nose like in the west as well.

To those men who are still young and single, don't get marry unless you want to have children. If you want sex there are plenty of venues for that. Chase money, not women. The latter will follow and you can have your pick. Traditional Asian family values no longer that relevant in SG modern society. Self preservation is and most SG women are not all sugar and spice, remember this.

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Old 06-12-2020, 03:17 PM
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Re: Marital rape

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I think ppl still marry due to love but both parties don't continue to work at their rs after tying the knot.
The way I see it is that getting married is the easy part but staying married is the tough part.
Love is a manufactured concept to sell flowers, diamonds, cakes, honeymoon package deals and mortgages. Men "love" women for their beauty, maybe personality. Women "love" men for what they can do for them (ie: resources).

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Re: Marital rape

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I wanted to discuss this.

Marital rape is now a crime here. This is a good move to protect women who have been sexually abused by their husbands and prevent any abusive husbands from raping his wife.

But as the saying goes, “every solution breeds new problems”.

Now what happens if the wife use this law to her fullest advantage and refused sex to her husband even though she is not unwell or tired? What can the husband do? What if the husband is expected to continue provide for her and the family whilst she never give him sex and happily give it to other men she likes? The other men for sure did not commit any crime as long as she consent to it.

If we men can no longer get sex from the woman we can make sexual advances to, then is marriage still worth it? Should the husband resort to hookers since his wife will never give him sex? And hookers will definitely give men sex as long as its paid.

I dont wish to get married as I have long list of reasons of why I think marriage doesn’t benefit me at all. And this new law is the latest one on my list.

Im not condoning that husbands should just raped their wives. But i think something should be done for a situation like I mentioned above.

What you bros think? Perhaps you can give some advice and ideas.

Wont the wife use that against the husband as cheating, if she found out the husband has been using escort services. Wont that help her in terms of the divorce settlement i.e. alimony and etc. My impression is that the current laws favours female in terms of divorce as there arent any men advocates pushing for gender equality
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Wont the wife use that against the husband as cheating, if she found out the husband has been using escort services. Wont that help her in terms of the divorce settlement i.e. alimony and etc. My impression is that the current laws favours female in terms of divorce as there arent any men advocates pushing for gender equality
Sure it may be true that generally only women can claim maintenance,

114.—(1) In determining the amount of any maintenance to be paid by a man to his wife or former wife, or by a woman to her incapacitated husband or incapacitated former husband, the court shall have regard to all the circumstances of the case including the following matters:

(a) the income, earning capacity, property and other financial resources which each of the parties to the marriage has or is likely to have in the foreseeable future;

(b) the financial needs, obligations and responsibilities which each of the parties to the marriage has or is likely to have in the foreseeable future;

(c) the standard of living enjoyed by the family before the breakdown of the marriage;

(d) the age of each party to the marriage and the duration of the marriage;

(e) any physical or mental disability of either of the parties to the marriage;

(f) the contributions made by each of the parties to the marriage to the
welfare of the family, including any contribution made by looking after the home or caring for the family; and

(g) in the case of proceedings for divorce or nullity of marriage, the value to either of the parties to the marriage of any benefit (for example, a pension) which, by reason of the dissolution or annulment of the marriage that party will lose the chance of acquiring.


There is nothing that says a woman should be awarded more (presumably money) in any settlement because they have been 'cheated on'.

Being scared off marriage by the WC is ridiculous. Giving wives pocket money when there is no reason to is giving them ammunition to use in the event of a settlement, and will be awarded as such. Not because the man was cheating or some such nonsense.

There are other things to be afraid of in marriage which people happily ignore.

There are far worse things
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Re: Marital rape

My 2 cents worth, withholding sex from either party in the marriage is deemed unreasonable behaviour and pretty much you can just file for divorce based on that alone and it will definitely be granted.

Marital rape, just made this a lot easier, as long as the wife continuously refuse sex with the man, then the man can just divorce her. Last time it is more difficult since the man is able to exercise his right sex with his wife, so how to proof your wife don't want to let u fuck?

The division of marital assets and the maintenance of the ex-wife post divorce are different matters altogether. It primarily looks at the contributions of the parties into the marriage, one important point to remember is that it does not look at who caused the marriage to break down.
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Re: Marital rape

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I wanted to discuss this.

Marital rape is now a crime here. This is a good move to protect women who have been sexually abused by their husbands and prevent any abusive husbands from raping his wife.

But as the saying goes, “every solution breeds new problems”.

Now what happens if the wife use this law to her fullest advantage and refused sex to her husband even though she is not unwell or tired? What can the husband do? What if the husband is expected to continue provide for her and the family whilst she never give him sex and happily give it to other men she likes? The other men for sure did not commit any crime as long as she consent to it.

If we men can no longer get sex from the woman we can make sexual advances to, then is marriage still worth it? Should the husband resort to hookers since his wife will never give him sex? And hookers will definitely give men sex as long as its paid.

I dont wish to get married as I have long list of reasons of why I think marriage doesn’t benefit me at all. And this new law is the latest one on my list.

Im not condoning that husbands should just raped their wives. But i think something should be done for a situation like I mentioned above.

What you bros think? Perhaps you can give some advice and ideas.

Dude which century are you living in? Women have to right to say no! Even to their husbands for any reason. Now that also constitutes a breaking of marital vows when you agree to have sex with just one person and she consistently refuses. In that cases you can leave the relationship or seek the sexual relief outside. IMHO any relationship where one party withholds sex and doesnt agree to the other partner getting it elsewhere is also abusive. So dont stand for it

A long time ago I started saying this to all my partners: "You cant control how much sex I have. Just how much sex I have with YOU". It works. Never had any partner consistently refuse sex. And if they do, its over.
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Dude which century are you living in? Women have to right to say no! Even to their husbands for any reason. Now that also constitutes a breaking of marital vows when you agree to have sex with just one person and she consistently refuses. In that cases you can leave the relationship or seek the sexual relief outside. IMHO any relationship where one party withholds sex and doesnt agree to the other partner getting it elsewhere is also abusive. So dont stand for it

A long time ago I started saying this to all my partners: "You cant control how much sex I have. Just how much sex I have with YOU". It works. Never had any partner consistently refuse sex. And if they do, its over.
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