Some story to share after went out w ML

[whoizzit2]

Dun waste ur time bro. Keep it transactional before u fall deeper.

Originally Posted by chinaman21

how to progress with ml by bringing them to staycation/hotel on their off days?
was following up with this ML and she suggests to go watch movie but ask me buy an hour out for her to end work early and to go watch movie and supper together after. but i feel that it will be better to ask her out on her off day and easier to hang out and do more things but not sure how to approach and bring out the topic, appreciate any brothers for guidance..........

[Lonelyman87]

to me i feel that it's really depend on individual on what level want to play. but do not put your family at risk. if you are single then whatever you want to do also can as long dun burn yourself and commit too much.

my rules is like this:
1. dun act hero
2. just be nice to them and KC to a level that they are comfortable to play w you to whatever i want including FJ in hotel or MP
3. treat them like family member or fren. they are lonely and they feel good to have someone around when they need.
4. dun get into too deep emotionally cos the are here for money. they will talk dirty w many guys and f around if got big offer. they still will be nice w u but when got big offer like 800 or 1000. they will go f w them occasionally. they like sex too. lol
5. if u r married and w kids, then better just play2 happy2 and pay money will do lah.

[hannibald]

Originally Posted by Lonelyman87

to me i feel that it's really depend on individual on what level want to play. but do not put your family at risk. if you are single then whatever you want to do also can as long dun burn yourself and commit too much.

my rules is like this:
1. dun act hero
2. just be nice to them and KC to a level that they are comfortable to play w you to whatever i want including FJ in hotel or MP
3. treat them like family member or fren. they are lonely and they feel good to have someone around when they need.
4. dun get into too deep emotionally cos the are here for money. they will talk dirty w many guys and f around if got big offer. they still will be nice w u but when got big offer like 800 or 1000. they will go f w them occasionally. they like sex too. lol
5. if u r married and w kids, then better just play2 happy2 and pay money will do lah.

Bro, well summarised for all those who are new to this massage scene.

My added 2 cents:

6. Like what Bro Lonelyman says, ML are here for money. 99% of them can by fuck for a price. The remaining 1% is because they have too much to lose, such as family.

7. When ML says no to you, it’s either your price is not high enough or you are not yandao enough. If you look like Andy Lau, they will Let you fuck for free
They are after all humans, got their urge as well.

8. There are many ML out there, if one doesn’t give what you want at your budget, just move on to others. You are just buying a service, not looking for a wife.

9. Almost all of them wants to go home after earning enough, many have husband in mainland. So don’t believe those I want to marry you shit.

[lupsupz]

Originally Posted by hannibald

6. Like what Bro Lonelyman says, ML are here for money. 99% of them can by fuck for a price. The remaining 1% is because they have too much to lose, such as family.

Feels like most of the MLs I've been visiting either belong to that 1% or I'm really too ugly...

[Lonelyman87]

Originally Posted by lupsupz

Feels like most of the MLs I've been visiting either belong to that 1% or I'm really too ugly...

U just didnt give the price they wanted. I can say 70-80% can be fucked as long price is right.

[lupsupz]

Originally Posted by Lonelyman87

U just didnt give the price they wanted. I can say 70-80% can be fucked as long price is right.

And what would the range be? I have never offered outright. But so far the MLs I've been to, only 1 suggested going to hotel. No price quoted yet and I haven't followed up cos her looks not that much of my cup of tea. The rest I only hinted but none has given the slightest inkling that more is possible.

[piichai]

Not difficult at all to know for commercial ML.
If not commercial, don talk abt price.
They can sacrifice their off day and pay you to bring them out if they want.

So lets talk abt commercial

Assuming this is the rate,
1hr :$50
HJ : $50

She has about average 5 customer a day.
Allowance : $10 per customer (average lah, some dont get anything)
Allowance : 10 x 5 = $50
HJ : 50 x 5 = $250
Total : $300 a day

If she is willing to go out with you, $300 is minimum. Not including HJ or FJ
Otherwise, she rather sleep in condo, play tik tok or go shopping with other ML. What you spend on her (wines, movies, entrance to GBB or MBS sky park) is not inclusive so dont try to deduct from her fee.

With this money, i can try to date locals and have some fun.

[helmsley]

Just wanted to add more 2 cents worth of experience. For me, the chances of asking MLs to go out and piak at hotel is high if you have visited them at least 2-3 times and of course you must pay a decent rate to get them to hotel.

For me, I’ve gotten about 5 MLs so far to hotel. To be honest the rate is quite high. Nothing less than 300 but the good thing is once in the hotel, they don’t really rush you. And the MLs I did at the hotel all allow raw. Dunno why but it seems that they are less inhibited outside the shop.

[Parttime]

Which hotel u normally book bro.

Originally Posted by helmsley

Just wanted to add more 2 cents worth of experience. For me, the chances of asking MLs to go out and piak at hotel is high if you have visited them at least 2-3 times and of course you must pay a decent rate to get them to hotel.

For me, I’ve gotten about 5 MLs so far to hotel. To be honest the rate is quite high. Nothing less than 300 but the good thing is once in the hotel, they don’t really rush you. And the MLs I did at the hotel all allow raw. Dunno why but it seems that they are less inhibited outside the shop.

[nex_terday]

Originally Posted by piichai

Not difficult at all to know for commercial ML.
If not commercial, don talk abt price.
They can sacrifice their off day and pay you to bring them out if they want.

So lets talk abt commercial

Assuming this is the rate,
1hr :$50
HJ : $50

She has about average 5 customer a day.
Allowance : $10 per customer (average lah, some dont get anything)
Allowance : 10 x 5 = $50
HJ : 50 x 5 = $250
Total : $300 a day

If she is willing to go out with you, $300 is minimum.

I had negotiated with some mls some time ago to go overseas (Batam). One said 500 a day to cover what she would have reasonably earned in a day. Another wanted 1000 for 3days/2nights stay.
Didn't make the trip due to some ban from travelling

[kthan10]

The rates are based on the ML average day earnings. Those Ang Pai ones will charge higher compared to the average ones

[kirdape]

Hi bros, I went to one of those $88 spas and visited this ML twice. HJ was not provided both times but the ML gave me her number written on a slip of paper after the session. I didn't ask for her number so bros, is this a hint for something more?
Does she provide more services outside or she just wants me to engage with her casually, like a dinner or something?

[enzyme]

There is this ML that used to be at central area.

I normally go during lunch hour or so.

After a few visits, only HJ.

One day after the lunch session, she joked about going for dinner and drinks some day. I said, how about today?

She was taken aback at my quick reply but she accepted.

Went to pick her at 7pm, she was fully make up.

As we started driving, I asked where did she want to go.

She say no idea.

I asked if she have a favourite restaurant or so as I am not familiar.

She replied anything again.

I then bantered, anything ah.... then we go hotel and order room service. No need Q and no need think....

To my excitement, she said 好啊。

That night 3 rounds....
1st round was upon reaching the room. Immediate action from walkway to bed. I even opened the curtains to face the city view.

The 2nd and 3rd time was initiated by her blowing me while we were resting.

Soon it was time to go home. I sent her back at about 12am as her husband was waiting for her.

On the way back then I jokingly asked.... what happened to dinner?

She said 我吃了你啊。

[helmsley]

Originally Posted by enzyme

There is this ML that used to be at central area.

I normally go during lunch hour or so.

After a few visits, only HJ.

One day after the lunch session, she joked about going for dinner and drinks some day. I said, how about today?

She was taken aback at my quick reply but she accepted.

Went to pick her at 7pm, she was fully make up.

As we started driving, I asked where did she want to go.

She say no idea.

I asked if she have a favourite restaurant or so as I am not familiar.

She replied anything again.

I then bantered, anything ah.... then we go hotel and order room service. No need Q and no need think....

To my excitement, she said 好啊。

That night 3 rounds....
1st round was upon reaching the room. Immediate action from walkway to bed. I even opened the curtains to face the city view.

The 2nd and 3rd time was initiated by her blowing me while we were resting.

Soon it was time to go home. I sent her back at about 12am as her husband was waiting for her.

On the way back then I jokingly asked.... what happened to dinner?

She said 我吃了你啊。

Swee la bro. Up u for that.

[ShittyAss]

Originally Posted by helmsley

Just wanted to add more 2 cents worth of experience. For me, the chances of asking MLs to go out and piak at hotel is high if you have visited them at least 2-3 times and of course you must pay a decent rate to get them to hotel.

For me, I’ve gotten about 5 MLs so far to hotel. To be honest the rate is quite high. Nothing less than 300 but the good thing is once in the hotel, they don’t really rush you. And the MLs I did at the hotel all allow raw. Dunno why but it seems that they are less inhibited outside the shop.

haha all allow raw? Means she will allow raw with others other la...use your brain to think leh...