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Re: Batam Info / Interest / Help Thread

CONFIRMED bro, NOW must register.
Was told by the staff at the telco shop (near paragon).
In Mar went there buy a SIM data@rp35K, 1Gb, top up 10K, expiry in Nov'18
Last Wed , went with 3 kakis n found MUST register at 4 shops we tried.



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All sim card need to be registered. Even XL. Just that they give a two week grace period for new sim card. After that still have to register, else phase 1 of blocking (no sms, no call), then phase 2, full blocking.

I dont know if this works or any benefits for you, but just suggest.
Instead of keep changing new no., next time just go to GraPARI, tell them your sim card was expired. And you wants to buy a new sim card with the same old no. Since you already registered that no. under your passport.
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PM, was told its "typo error" but no explaination given by the bigboobs PR.
BM = body massage.
Top Show is topless, BUT really SHOW ONLY cannot touch.
useless lah , just open bra after 1hr normal massage n BM only 5mins, after which HJ.



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Can confirm is Boob massage? If it is i would like to try it next week.

Btw wats "Top show"?
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PM, was told its "typo error" but no explaination given by the bigboobs PR.
BM = body massage.
Top Show is topless, BUT really SHOW ONLY cannot touch.
useless lah , just open bra after 1hr normal massage n BM only 5mins, after which HJ.
Tks. I'll give it a miss.
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The above really surprises me. Things in Indonesia are never straightforward.
As pointed aout above, now it's Indonesian Law that all SIM cards MUST BE registered to be used.
If what you write above is correct, it means that not all Indonesian telephone operators obey to law in the same way. Those operators must allow a grace period (two weeks?) before blocking unregistered SIM cards.
Technically,we are touring a 3rd world country. Whatever policy the government has impose,the bottom people getting imposed on usually has a way or some ways to work around it.

Before i stepped into Batam on April, i had that mindset of testing things out,hence i tried this upon myself at Harbour Bay. Upon debarking ,arrived to chop my passport,luggage check and walked out,i walked about 25 steps to the nearest sim card selling shop to ask for a sim card, as of below link :

https://sbfsg.org/showpost.php?p=17...ostcount=10533

All i did was when i arrived to the shop is asked :

Me : I need a sim card for a few days in Batam,what would you recommend that i use without the need to register?

Shop vendor : This one is good and cheap,you can try this one. (he took out iM3 sim card to show me)

Me : How much is it ? Can i test it on my phone?

Shop vendor : Yes, it cost 50k rupiah. And it will last you for a more than a week.

Me : Thank you,i will take it if it works. (i took out my previous sim card from my phone and pass to him)

He tested it,and i try calling formosa hotel with my new sim card and it works well. I paid and off i go towards the ferry arrival entrance to take taxi.

The whole process took no more than 5 mins,hehehe....what else can be simpler than that?

Upon reaching the hotel,i found out there was less than 10k inside the sim card i bought and i top up another 25k (+2k) at the Circle K at the ground floor of the hotel. And ta da! i have an unregistered sim card to use during my stay.

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5) Registration is forever, BUT the card will expire if you don't top up once in a while. I am pretty sure that if I don't top up, next time I will be back to Indonesia I will have to repeat the whole procedure
You may wish to try my method above,i think its more convenient.

Oh, Formosa changed their room slipper's design,hehehe...


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For me I think it is simple if you know how to go aroun it
I agreed with your point,things can be very simple when you know "how to" work around it. But i must admit,initially i do not know.

When i hear from my friends that to register for my old blocked sim card gonna take more than an hour of waiting time, my original plan wasnt to go there to wait that long,hehehe...my plan was to ask my girls to wait on behalf for me and to call me on my mobile phone (in my new sim card from iM3) when my turn were almost up...but things turn out differently instead,hehehe...i go to Telkomsel service center shop at Nagoya Hill Mall at the time they just open shop and the wait wasnt really that long.

More importantly, there wasnt a big crowd. All was done within 30mins and since iM3 service center is just opposite Telkomsel's service center, i use part of the less than 30mins waiting time at Telkomsel to go register my iM3 sim card (since i was holding my passport).

iM3 service center has even way lesser people,hehehe... it is where i checked with the staffs how long my iM3 sim card will last if i dont register them.

Their answer, "up to between 2 weeks to one month".

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Yes, Indonesia found the way to make a simple thing complex.
History has spoke of this before. I remember many years ago,when they change their old currency note to new ones whereby they say the old notes will no longer be legal tender and the only legal notes were the new ones...then, there was a big mad rush.

Hence last year when the new Indo notes were out, people starts making enquiry or at least try to find out more.

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I dont know if this works or any benefits for you, but just suggest.
Instead of keep changing new no., next time just go to GraPARI, tell them your sim card was expired. And you wants to buy a new sim card with the same old no. Since you already registered that no. under your passport.
This is interesting,something i didnt know that can be done in Indonesia. But i believe thats only if the my previous old number hasnt already been recycled. Meaning the old sim card cannot be "abandoned" too long a time.

Thank you for sharing this info,i might go try this one out the next following year.

PS : I am curious,how many Indo sim card can a tourist sign up for? Hmm...if no answer,then i might need to test it out myself in my future trips. (i know locals can sign up for 3)
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Re: Batam Info / Interest / Help Thread

With the cool weather this morning we decided to walk to market.
Passed by Newton at about 6wib heard the loud music. Thought they closing at 7.
After N's maketing n breakfast...
We walk back at around 9 the music still on and someone said that they are operating round the clock.
But I'm not sure it is only on indo Public holiday.
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See how fast the indo reacted to this..
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Technically,we are touring a 3rd world country. Whatever policy the government has impose,the bottom people getting imposed on usually has a way or some ways to work around it.
This morning saw a Sim card seller while walking along the secondhand clothing market. Noted that there are a few pieces of papers with numbers print attached together with the Sim cards.
Touted that could registered with that slip heard he mentioned Ktp Kk...
I suspect that some one(Ktp/Kk) info might be sold together with the Sim card.
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PS : I am curious,how many Indo sim card can a tourist sign up for? Hmm...if no answer,then i might need to test it out myself in my future trips. (i know locals can sign up for 3)


Each set of NIK/KTP + KK can have more then 3 sim card per telco operator. Only the first 3 sim card can register by sms or online. After the 3 sim cards, following no. can be register at GraPARI. So local can sign up more then 3 no.

Actually i have tried a set of NIk+KK registered four sim card online. More then what the website stated.

For Bro BP, more easy for you is to PM me if you want. I can send you a set of NIk + KK for you to register online. I have 20+ sets
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Re: Batam Info / Interest / Help Thread

Another example of "going around"
The game shop (mutated casino)
Player (gambler) paid cash to buy token
When you win you get you prize (tipically rokok).
Later you exchange(sell) your prizes back to cash at a fix price/prize

BUT....
the cash back can only done off site.

So....
Is it a simple or complicated way to go around the law of no gambling?
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I suspect that some one(Ktp/Kk) info might be sold together with the Sim card.
In batam, thats easy to get all this info.
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Another example of "going around"
The game shop (mutated casino)
Player (gambler) paid cash to buy token
When you win you get you prize (tipically rokok).
Later you exchange(sell) your prizes back to cash at a fix price/prize

BUT....
the cash back can only done off site.

So....
Is it a simple or complicated way to go around the law of no gambling?
But when razia time. Still got ppl got caught. One sporean got caught at nagoya hill. He handed over the rokok to dealer inside the game room and went over to the restuarant to collect the cash. When he step out of the restuarant after collecting the money, Intel got him.
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if you want. I can send you a set of NIk + KK for you to register online. I have 20+ sets
555 how much you paid for each set
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Didn't know that the limit is only apply to sms or online thanks
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555 how much you paid for each set
No need to pay. I just ask someone to get It for me.

Btw the laundry shop beside N shop doing good? I looking for empty ruko near that area.
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But when razia time. Still got ppl got caught. One sporean got caught at nagoya hill. He handed over the rokok to dealer inside the game room and went over to the restuarant to collect the cash. When he step out of the restuarant after collecting the money, Intel got him.
He handed over the rokok on site that the problems.

The safer way is to sell it to some small stall far away.

Or some hv a car going around to provide cash back services
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No need to pay. I just ask someone to get It for me.

Btw the laundry shop beside N shop doing good? I looking for empty ruko near that area.
You mean the corner shop?
business Look Ok. But i don't send there.
They don't hv enough drying capacity.

3 shop away fr N Shop, owner did put up notice for sale or lease months ago.
Took a look then, ceiling was infested with Rat so no take. Now notice removed. But didn't see any Reno work going on
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