Batam Info / Interest / Help Thread

[ndnd]

Originally Posted by BFOMF5

Took a look then, ceiling was infested with Rat so no take. Now notice removed. But didn't see any Reno work going on

Thanks for the info. Maybe today go there take a look.

[Haru^biao]

Returning your earlier up...thanks bro..

Originally Posted by Black Page

Thank you!!!!!

[nono1973]

Originally Posted by ndnd

Each set of NIK/KTP + KK can have more then 3 sim card per telco operator. Only the first 3 sim card can register by sms or online. After the 3 sim cards, following no. can be register at GraPARI. So local can sign up more then 3 no.

Actually i have tried a set of NIk+KK registered four sim card online. More then what the website stated.

Thank you,thank you...this is good information. So,can i safely said that i ,as a tourist can actually sign up for 3 indo sim card in each different Telco companies with my passport at their service center? If there are 10 telco companies,i can have 30 sim cards. Note,i dont plan to register any sim card via NIK/KTP + KK number (becos i dont have that).

The part where it amazed me is that when i lost my phone with a certain Indonesia telco company's sim card,i will be able to retrieve back the same sim card number again. Impressive!

Originally Posted by BFOMF5

Touted that could registered with that slip heard he mentioned Ktp Kk...
I suspect that some one(Ktp/Kk) info might be sold together with the Sim card.

If all these (pre-registered sim card) CAN be done in Singapore (not exactly legal), i would foresee it being done way much easily in Indonesia.

All hotels will have many personal information,hehehe...

Originally Posted by BFOMF5

Another example of "going around"
The game shop (mutated casino)
Player (gambler) paid cash to buy token
When you win you get you prize (tipically rokok).
Later you exchange(sell) your prizes back to cash at a fix price/prize

I agreed with your examples,hehehe...

I think what bro Blackpage meant by being complex...

Originally Posted by Black Page

Yes, Indonesia found the way to make a simple thing complex.

...probably means that the policy of needing to register a sim card was meant to keep "things" in control,eg terrorist etc....but base on the look of it now,it has become rather redundant as their objective were not properly serve.

It also doesnt affect the locals so much ,but more of giving tourist/s and foreigners a bigger impact of inconvenience.

If i were to be some terrorist or someone planning to abuse those sim cards,i simply just take a ferry to reach Harbour Bay,upon checking out of custom,i walk about 25 steps forward to buy a sim card,put it on my phone and off i can start using. (tested)

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My solution from a shorter stay Batam tourist's perspective is still, step out of custom,walk to the nearest sim card seller, ask for a sim card without registration; test it out,pay and go.

Only 50k rupiah. My sim card problem solved,hehehe...no need waste time to go until their respective telco company's service center to buy workable ones.

https://sbfsg.org/showpost.php?p=17...ostcount=10533

...and if i am permanently staying in Batam,i might probably register those sim card/s with another person's particulars,but never with street vendors.

[ndnd]

Originally Posted by nono1973

The part where it amazed me is that when i lost my phone with a certain Indonesia telco company's sim card,i will be able to retrieve back

If someone lose his hp, and the no. Is not registered.
He can go to GraPARI to get back the same no. But he must be able to give 5 often called no. from that lost sim card, to proof that the sim card belong to him.

[nono1973]

Originally Posted by ndnd

If someone lose his hp, and the no. Is not registered.
He can go to GraPARI to get back the same no. But he must be able to give 5 often called no. from that lost sim card, to proof that the sim card belong to him.

Thank you again,one last question. Does this applies to all Telco companies in Indonesia or just Telkomsel?

Thanks again.

[ndnd]

Originally Posted by nono1973

Thank you again,one last question. Does this applies to all Telco companies

Others operator not sure bro. Recently my OC lost her hp, she manage to get back the same no. by doing that. (Simpati)

[nono1973]

Originally Posted by ndnd

Others operator not sure bro. Recently my OC lost her hp, she manage to get back the same no. by doing that. (Simpati)

Noted and thank you...again.

Cheers!

[WankJanice]

Originally Posted by ndnd

Others operator not sure bro. Recently my OC lost her hp, she manage to get back the same no. by doing that. (Simpati)

Bro, thank you for the good tip.

[Black Page]

Originally Posted by ndnd

All sim card need to be registered. Even XL. Just that they give a two week grace period for new sim card. After that still have to register, else phase 1 of blocking (no sms, no call), then phase 2, full blocking.
I dont know if this works or any benefits for you, but just suggest.

This is exactly what I was looking for. I stay here never longer than 1 week. Buying a SIM card for the week is what I need, as it expires anyway before I come back.
However, I know Simpati work well. What about the coverage and transfer speed achieved by other operators?

Originally Posted by ndnd

Instead of keep changing new no., next time just go to GraPARI, tell them your sim card was expired. And you wants to buy a new sim card with the same old no. Since you already registered that no. under your passport.

As Nono noticed, they recycle numbers. Therefore, if too long time passed, it is likely that the same number is now in use by someone else.
However, doing as you suggest just saves the hassle to take the passport to GraPARI, but it does not save the time wasted to go there. I don't need keeping the same number.

I think this is the last time I buy the second SIM card for the GSM phone. I am noticing that even the poorest girls working in Newton now have a phone with WhatsApp. I still did not use the GMS phone to keep contact with someone who does not have WhatsApp. I may need it if if I go hunting girls in Pasar, but for the moment I do not plan to do that

Originally Posted by maddog_mlvn

Bro BP, u dun need to understand their system of working,

I am the kind of guy who wants to understand everything. I am not happy to do something just because it works. I wish to understand the logic behind.

Originally Posted by maddog_mlvn

just look closely at ur newly bought sim card, stated 4G sim card, anytime u log into the internet, 24/7 most of the time u can get is H signal, and even in mid night also can't stay constantly at 3G. So just live with it.

To be fair with Telkomsel, I am satisfied with their 4G. It may be not like in Singapore, but today I tested the transfer speed in 3 places (Formosa, Nagoya Hill, somewhere around) and at all times the download/upload speed was around 8-12 Mbit/s. Not bad, and better than the wifi of Formosa (max 2 Mbit/s)
The light on my MIFI modem is almost always blue, which means I am connected to HSDPA or LTE, seldom green (3G)

Originally Posted by BFOMF5

With the cool weather this morning we decided to walk to market. Passed by Newton at about 6wib heard the loud music. Thought they closing at 7.

Yesterday night they stopped music and turned on the lights at 5am SHARP. I was used to see Newton still active till after 7am, as you say.
Yes, it makes me feel unconfortable, going back to Formosa with the sun already up and good people already at work.

Originally Posted by BFOMF5

This morning saw a Sim card seller while walking along the secondhand clothing market. Noted that there are a few pieces of papers with numbers print attached together with the Sim cards.
Touted that could registered with that slip heard he mentioned Ktp Kk...
I suspect that some one(Ktp/Kk) info might be sold together with the Sim card.

Next time, should I waste more time going to GraPARI or looking for such a seller?
I think GraPARI is still more convenient. By the way, I wasted one hour but all included, from the moment I asked the SIM card the first time to when I saw Internet access on.

Originally Posted by ndnd

For Bro BP, more easy for you is to PM me if you want. I can send you a set of NIk + KK for you to register online. I have 20+ sets

You are too kind, indeed. Appreciated.

[BFOMF5]

Originally Posted by ndnd

Thanks for the info. Maybe today go there take a look.

Just tell my shop keeper you looking for "Dadi" I'll go down n meet you.

[Black Page]

FYI:
Pacific Disco CLOSED for renovation
One of the landmarks in Batam...

Yesterday P3 and P2 FULL of people. Can hardly walk around. Because of 1st May eve, or because Pacific closed?

[BFOMF5]

Originally Posted by nono1973

...and if i am permanently staying in Batam,i might probably register those sim card/s with another person's particulars,but never with street vendors.

That what I prefer

[BFOMF5]

Originally Posted by nono1973

If all these (pre-registered sim card) CAN be done in Singapore (not exactly legal), i would foresee it being done way much easily in Indonesia.

All hotels will have many personal information,hehehe...

Hotel hv passport info of foreigner. it's of no use as it need to reg. in PERSON.

Hotel don't asked for KK(Family Card) info. (Dont think any one would bring Kk out when travelling)

That why I said KK serve as an extra check. Something like credit card companies asked for your mother's maiden name.

[Black Page]

Originally Posted by BFOMF5

My solution from a shorter stay Batam tourist's perspective is still, step out of custom,walk to the nearest sim card seller, ask for a sim card without registration; test it out,pay and go.

Only 50k rupiah. My sim card problem solved,hehehe...no need waste time to go until their respective telco company's service center to buy workable ones.

You depict is easy, but it's not. I wish to do as you suggest, next time I come here.

I am reading HERE that SOME telcos do sell SIM cards that have a grace period without registration before blocking. What you suggest works ONLY with one such telco.

Telkomsel DOES NOT. Simpati SIM cards MUST be registered before using, even for first call. No grace period.

I went to a shop at Lucky Plaza and they sell only Simpati. So, no choice there. Even if I am keen to try another operator as you suggest, I must go to the appropriate shop to find it. With Simpati, I have no other choice then register it (at GraPARI unless I don't find a local KTP/KK).

Ok, you may argue "Why you want Simpati? Take another one". Correct, but it has to be investigated whether the coverage and performance of Telkomsel is the same as other operators. There could be a reason to prefer Simpati. So far, I have beeb very satisfied with the network performance of SImpati in Batam.

[nono1973]

Hmm...Avenger 3, Infinity War is now screening in Batam's theater,hehehe...actually the movie starts since last week.

AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR

The Storyline :

Iron Man, Thor, the Hulk and the rest of the Avengers unite to battle their most powerful enemy yet -- the evil Thanos. On a mission to collect all six Infinity Stones, Thanos plans to use the artifacts to inflict his twisted will on reality. The fate of the planet and existence itself has never been more uncertain as everything the Avengers have fought for has led up to this moment.

The Trailer

I read there are about 72 super heroes in this movie,or so i read...and a handful of them will die. It should not be a bad movie. Its already number 1 in the box office now as i type,hehehe...

There are six Infinity Stones :

The Space Stone (blue), the Reality Stone (red), the Power Stone (purple), the Mind Stone (yellow), the Time Stone (green) and the Soul Stone (we don't know yet).

Can i buy them in Batam?
(joking)

Enjoy the movie at only 35k to 45k rupiah,have a good laugh, enjoy batam.