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Old 09-11-2018, 11:39 AM
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Re: Picking up KTV gals ouside KTVs

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Originally Posted by xXFreedomXx View Post
Just to check with senior bros here, if KTV gals let you french kiss, what does that means? Different country girls have different meaning?
Yes, means the gal wants to let you sex.

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Originally Posted by warbird View Post
Hi bro,

IMHO, her pussy is yours hahaha...

.................................................

Good morning!

Many bros still get KC-ed by the wrong women, both WLs n non-WLs.

Getting KC-ed by a wrong non-WL could be even more catastrophic. The hapless man may end up marrying n living w/ the wrong woman for the rest of his life!!

We need to remember this:

The person who cares the least controls the RS.

If you get KC-ed or if u hv more KC for her than she has for u, u lose control of the RS.

A man who loses control in any aspect of his life, especially in his RS w/ his woman, is NOT a confident n masculine man. He is most unattractive. Period.

His woman will lose respect, attraction n love for him, sooner rather than later, even if she was madly in love w/ him n was financially, emotionally n sexually addicted to him BEFORE.

She will be miserable n can choose to leave him or stay miserable...or cheat on him hahaha.

Yes, I must admit I do hv a little KC for my 2 long-term mistresses, XW n EN, but they hv more KC for me. If I had zero KC for them, the RS would be short-lived. It's perfectly OK if I lose both of them tmr haha.

I hv several options to replace them: one is a 23 yo tall (170), sexy n fair Fujian gal w/ natural C who is coming soon. I met her some time ago n never upped her. The other is a 20 yo 3rd yr student at a famous uni in China who wants to go to Gotham City to be w/ me after her graduation. She is chio n tall (168) too. She has good command of English. I'm trying to convince her to do a Master degree here in SG.

BTW, 20 yo TH has been my 'best find' inside n outside SG KTVs in the last 2 yrs. She is BY material. However, I hv already upped her...so no BY-ing her for me.

Cheers!

Bro WB
Bro WB

Thank you for a lovely thread here.

I have learned many points here and still have more to learn.

Honestly I have not much experiences with girls and maybe time to gather some new experiences.

Hope to learn more.

Read that I should go out to approach 100 to 200 girls.

Wish I can do all these.

Thanks and hope all have a good weekend.
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Old 09-11-2018, 11:43 AM
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Re: Picking up KTV gals ouside KTVs

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Good morning!

A reflection on my changing behaviour.

Several yrs ago, I was only doing STs. In May 2009, I started BY-ing, mostly short-term from 1-4 wks n the gals continued to work. BTW, my 1st few BY-ings didn't go well. Then I asked my new BAO-ees not to work. The RS was still quite brief, 1-3 months. In the last 2 yrs, I hv had longer-term RS, the longest is close to 2 yrs. Of course I still do occasional STs if a gal happens to be my type.

Why the change? A long-term exclusive RS w/ a chio gal of my type is more satisfying n leads to greater happiness. There r the added benefits of more intimacy, sexually n emotionally. Last but not least, it's much safer to do her raw.

The following article written by a mentor refers to non-WLs but the basic concept n rational r largely the same.



LOTS OF ONE NIGHT STANDS VS. ONE GREAT WOMAN



Hey Mr. Mentor, how's it going!

Just wanted to say, I checked over your site and I think it's
awesome what you are doing and teaching people! You have inspired
me to start deserving what I want also instead of settling for just
anyone!

I really don't have trouble meeting woman and going on dates,
it's just that I haven't found a lot of quality woman in this
world. I've been in lots of one-night stands with women and
have come to the realization that it doesn't bring happiness.

Only having a true connection with a woman leads to happiness.

My only question to you is how did you know the woman your married
to now was the right one for you? Out of all the women you dated,
how did you know she was the one? How did you know when to stop
dating is the question I'm trying to ask, what if you kept on
dating instead of stopping and met another high quality woman?


Anonymous



=====



Thanks for your kind words. I really enjoy hearing from people who
are inspired. I appreciate your story and your revelations.

As for one-night-stands, I've never understood it. I've always
thought that if a woman was worth being intimate with once, she
was worth more than that.

Besides, if I really liked her having sex only a single time
would be nothing short of frustrating.

Your "one question" really is a BIG one. Here's the simple answer:

I dated MANY women. And I dated as many of them at once as I
could handle.

As I did, I made very careful notes of what I liked and didn't
like, even going so far as to building a spreadsheet so as to rein
in my typically right-brained approach to "winging it" when it
comes to such things.

As I learned more about women and what they want from a man, and
as I began to DESERVE a great woman more and more, I raised the
proverbial bar as far as the quality of women in my life.

So yes, like I found out first-hand, guys like you and I run the
distinct risk of encountering the enviable problem of having
MORE THAN ONE high quality woman in the picture.

But having CONTROL over one's dating life is key in this situation.

This means making the choices that affect ONE'S OWN life. Being
able to attract and make my own decisions regarding the women in my
life, I placed myself into the position of being able to fine-tune
who it was I was looking for and I recognized her almost instantly.

This meant cutting ties with some great women, but I was also at a
point in my life where I was comfortable with the notion of being
READY for some stability around here.

Importantly, that decision was MY OWN choice--no pressure from
her--based on experience and being in a position of strength rather
than neediness when it came to my interactions with women in my
life.

There's so much more to this, though. Your attitude matters way
more than objective strategy, and certainly more than tips, tricks
and tactics.

You MUST respect and genuinely enjoy female-ness rather than
being sex-focused, which I've talked about quite a bit in this
space lately.

Otherwise, you will get what you deserve--which is MUCH LESS than
what cements a solid long-term future with a great woman. A man
who UNDERSTANDS and ACTUALLY LIKES women realizes the crucial
importance of masculinity and thereby draws women to him.

Women everywhere CRAVE a man who is masculine enough to awaken
their femininity. Get this principle down and begin having the
"enviable" problem cited above.

Now, being the kind of guy we're talking about here is actually not
so hard to pull off. For most guys, it's kind of like a "light
bulb" that goes off after struggling with the concepts for a brief
while.

It's kind of like when you learn how to ride a bike.

That said, winning a downhill mountain bike race, for example,
is a bit more advanced than simply getting rid of the training
wheels, if you get my drift.

How about a woman's perspective on all of this? Just a couple of
nights ago you wouldn't have believed the quality of our waitress
at dinner who announced to us that she was "dateless".

Although she was beginning to doubt herself, the only difference
between her and her friends was that she refused to settle for a
moron.

Good for her. She shouldn't settle for anyone less than who she
deserves any more than you or I should.

My GF and I both agreed that she should take great pride in her
pickiness instead of doubting it and she will begin to see the
men she deserves come looking for her. These men, by the way,
happen to be guys like YOU.

Did I mention that this 21 year old sweetheart with big brown
eyes and a priceless smile was DATELESS?

There ARE NOT ENOUGH great men to go around. Do your part to
change that...and win. It's really that simple.


Be Good,

Mr. Mentor



Bro WB

Definitely a longer term relationship will be better and satisfying.

The mentor also encouraged guy to date more and go out have more fun.

I shall follow both your and mentor advice.

Thank you.
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Old 09-11-2018, 06:33 PM
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Re: Picking up KTV gals ouside KTVs

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Yes, means the gal wants to let you sex.
Yes, I think so too.
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Old 09-11-2018, 10:34 PM
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Re: Picking up KTV gals ouside KTVs

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Bro WB

Definitely a longer term relationship will be better and satisfying.

The mentor also encouraged guy to date more and go out have more fun.

I shall follow both your and mentor advice.

Thank you.
Agree, must follow good advice.

Cheers.
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Old 10-11-2018, 11:12 AM
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Re: Picking up KTV gals ouside KTVs

Bro WB

I also couldn't agree with the author and you more.

I spent my weekends reading your prestigious 5 star thread with pleasure. I must say this are facts can never learn in any school.

First hand account and practices. Very useful conversations and correspondences.

Usually I shall read with a pinch of salt but not here. In fact I find the facts to be truthful.

Will continue reading and enjoying myself in the meantime.

Happy weekend.

Cheers.



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Good morning!

I made connection w/ a tall n beautiful PRC national UL recently. She is a 19 yo uni student in Chengdu n part-time model. She speaks perfect Mandarin but looks like a 100% Ang mo. She is of Eastern European-Turkic descent. She initially rejected me on account of my advanced age, but is now eager to meet me after SP n after I told her I like to keep 3-4 mistresses n that I like to make love everyday. She looks more like 24 though?!! I also requests that she intro other chio n tall gals to me.

I believe UL was intrigued n became interested cuz I was totally unaffected by her initial rejection n I let her know exactly what I was thinking.

No need to hide your intentions or be manipulative n never be afraid of rejection...this is the essence of Mode One behaviour.

Also, let me quote: "Rejection and/or harsh criticism is not failure, and therefore is not a valid basis for disappointment or frustration."

According to Alan Currie, author of Mode One:

If I've said this once, I've said it a dozen times ....
Rejection and/or harsh criticism is not failure, and therefore is not a valid basis for
disappointment or frustration;
Rejection and/or harsh criticism is not failure, and therefore is not a valid basis for
disappointment or frustration;
Rejection and/or harsh criticism is not failure, and therefore is not a valid basis for
disappointment or frustration;
Rejection and/or harsh criticism is not failure, and therefore is not a valid basis for
disappointment or frustration;
Rejection and/or harsh criticism is not failure, and therefore is not a valid basis for
disappointment or frustration;
Rejection and/or harsh criticism is not failure, and therefore is not a valid basis for
disappointment or frustration;
See ... I just said it a half-dozen more times.
The problem I see with many on this board is that some of you put "too much" emphasis on
receiving a positive, enthusiastic, and/or reciprocal response from women.
With Mode One Behavior, you can't do that. If you do, you're setting yourself up for frustration
in the future.
When I'm Mode One with women, I really don't concentrate on the potential responses from
women and/or results I achieve. Why? Because for the most part, those factors are out of my
[direct] control.
I only concentrate on these 2-3 things:
1) What is my primary objective with this woman? Why am I talking to her in the first place? Do I
want to potentially date her? Do I just want a one-night stand and/or a weekend fling?
The more you know what you want from a woman, the more specific you can be in your
approach; If your desires at this point are in the "undecided" category, then leave your
approach more 'general'.
2) Now that I know what my objective is for speaking with this woman, how am I going to
express my desires, interests, and intentions to her? Am I going to be bashful? Beat-around-the bush?
Or am I going to express my thoughts in a highly self-assured, bold, upfront and
straightforward manner??

If you're Mode One, the obvious answer is the latter.
3) If this woman decides to harshly criticize me for being so 'forward' and truthful with my
thoughts, am I going to 'back down' and apologize? If she rejects me, am I going to behave in
an angry and/or defensive manner?? Hell no. If she doesn't like my approach, or the manner in
which I express myself ... SO FU**ING WHAT. That's HER problem ... not mine.
Remember this: 99.9% of the time, Rejection is WIN-WIN.
Why?
Because ...
a) if a woman rejects you because you're simply 'not her type', or she is just genuinely not
interested in you .... then that is a 'win' because you didn't waste time or invest money
pursuing a woman's companionship when it wasn't really going to lead to anything productive
or enjoyable;
b) if a woman rejects you, and deep-down, you ARE her type, and she DOES have some degree
of interest in you ... then I would be willing to bet money that at some point in the future ....
either a few minutes after her initial rejection .... a few hours ... a few days .... or even in some
cases, a few weeks and/or months later .... that SAME WOMAN is going to start THINKING
ABOUT YOU and DESIRING YOUR COMPANIONSHIP.
Never take rejection on FACE VALUE.
I've had women harshly criticize me at 10pm only to be sucking my dick at 11:30pm.
I've had women harshly reject me in late December, only to be exchanging orgasms with that
same woman in early-to-mid April of the next year.
Just concentrate on being MODE ONE. If your desires, interests and intentions are reciprocated
immediately .... then that's great. Gold star for you. But in the event that they're not ... don't
allow yourself to come across as 'desperate' or 'impatient.' Both are SEDUCTION KILLERS.

Hope this helps....






I couldn't agree w/ the author more.

Just give u one example (there r many others),

When I 1st met XW in 2008, she didn't even look at me when she talked, refused going to lunch w/ me, deleted my HP no n hung up on me twice...took me 8 1/2 months to bed her...n we were separated twice...

But she is still w/ me n I love to do 69 n fxk her raw hahaha.

Cheers!

Bro WB
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Old 10-11-2018, 11:17 AM
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Re: Picking up KTV gals ouside KTVs

Couldn't agree more too as well.

Very good thread by bro WB.

Enjoy your weekend bro.

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Bro WB

I also couldn't agree with the author and you more.

I spent my weekends reading your prestigious 5 star thread with pleasure. I must say this are facts can never learn in any school.

First hand account and practices. Very useful conversations and correspondences.

Usually I shall read with a pinch of salt but not here. In fact I find the facts to be truthful.

Will continue reading and enjoying myself in the meantime.

Happy weekend.

Cheers.
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Old 10-11-2018, 11:19 AM
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Re: Picking up KTV gals ouside KTVs

Bro WB

Great post below.

After reading I shall learn to say no by building sexual tension.

Let me share here my little experience.

I was interested in this girl AD. AD has a nice figure and elegant face. She often dress well and nice to bring out for a event.

I was infatuated with her and often wanted to go out with her. After she said no first few times, I did not give up and maintain contact.

Nowadays, I don't date her and let her date me. So I shall be the one to say when I am free to date. In the meantime, I date others as well.

So while enjoying myself I also hope she can date me.

Wish me luck and shall report here teh outcome.

Happy weekend.

Cheers.

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Good morning!

Never be afraid to say no to a girl you like very much, if you think no is the right answer. She may get angry n frustrated, but you must remain cool, calm n collected, as always. Despite her initial negative responses, she will become more attracted to u haha. It builds sexual tension.

Remember: Always be confident n optimistic. She feels what u feel haha.

Let me share w/ u 10 ways to increase sexual tension (written by a guru).

10 Ways To Increase Sexual Tension

Here is a short list of ways to increase sexual tension tactics (as suggested in another report, you want to create a growing list of CORE sexual tension tactics.

You should create a long list (as humanly possible) of different ST Categories that women are responsive to.
The idea is to increase her arousal a little bit, then do something else to increase it some more, then do something to increase it some even more, then do something to increase it some even more….
…until she is FULLY SEXUALLY AROUSED!

You see, for some guys you have to teach them the whole “do something to increase sexual tension — then keep doing more stuff” approach, because too many guys are looking for the ONE MAGIC METHOD to getting a woman turned on all at once…
And it doesn’t work like that!

Here’s an analogy….

For most women, oral sex provides the easiest means for orgasm. And yet, there isn’t ONE MAGIC LICK you could do that would make it so that she cums after “one lick”…

Instead, you have to give her a “sequence of licks” if you want the ORGASMIC tension to build.

It works the same way with building SEXUAL tension. So it’s to your benefit to create a list of ST Tactics and then from there, use a sequence/combination of tactics to get her turned on….

If you decide to create a list of ST Categories, as a tip just think of any possible thing that would lead to some sort of increase in sexual tension.
Here’s a list to start with (fill free to add to it…). As you can see, I didn’t limit it to ‘conversation tactics’ or anything like that…

1)Working Out (looking better, improve, pheromones) – Again, this is proof that my objective was to list every possible thing imaginable that could build tension. So trust me, I’m not trying to insult your intelligence by listing obvious things. With that said, working out builds sexual tension in several ways (looking better, being perceived as someone who cares about his health, being perceived as someone who cares about his appearance, being perceived as someone who cares about improving.) In addition to that, the healthier you are, the sexier you will smell – on a pheromones level.

2)Sexual Matching. This works purely on her ability to detect the pattern – even if she’s not consciously aware of it. If every time she has sex, it’s an incredible/great experience, it’s a tension builder for wanting it more in the future. People like doing things that are fun. People like doing things that feel good. Taking it a step further, if she wants hug-like soft sex and you bang it silly, that’s not sexual matching. Sexual Matching is all about identifying what type of sex she wants at the moment and giving it to her.

3)Touching and Caressing. If you’ve been in a relationship before, then you’ve probably created sexual tension by this method. When done the right way, it’s one of the easiest ways to get a woman turned on. When done the wrong way, it’s one of the easiest ways to get a woman turned off.

4)Fantasizing about sex. Thinking about sexual fantasies. Thinking of past sexual memories. Thinking of future sexual encounters. Thinking of a time when she ‘watched sex’ – either on TV or live.

5)Increasing Metabolism. Doesn’t apply to all women. But in general, the metabolic rate has to do with the speed of internal processes. Most people associate it with ‘losing weight’ (the rate of burning calories). It’s more than that. If you understand the true definition, then you’ll realize that it also has to do with speed of horniness because ‘getting horny’ requires a chain of chemical processes that take place in the body. So simple terms: If you speed up her metabolism, then she’s going to be capable of getting horny faster and more often.

6)Gradual Affection. If you ever cuddled and caressed a woman over a few hours, and all of a sudden she wanted to have sex, then it’s because you slowly increased the sexual tension via gradual affection. It’s not limited to actual touching. It could include gradual compliments (verbal caressing), physical rubbing or a combination of both.

7)On and Off Methods. This is a general and one of the basic forms of creating tension (sexual tension and orgasmic tension) Adding pleasure. Taking it away. Adding more pleasure. Taking it away. The best way to understand this is to NOT look at sex as a series of penis thrusts, but rather a series of ‘putting it in’ (adding pleasure) and taking it away (removing pleasure).

8)Hate/Love Swing. This is the more descriptive version of make up sex – emphasizing the transition (swing) from ‘hate/anger’ to ‘love/happiness’. Although ‘make-up sex’ is a concept for most people, technically there are other ‘swings’ that happen that create tension. It’s an emotional version of an ‘on and off’ method.

9)Dramatic Increase in Sexual Value. This is somewhat of a ‘swing’ technique. Instead of building tension via ‘hate/anger’ to ‘love/happiness’, it’s from going from no value to having value or going from value to lots of value. The interesting thing to realize is when you have ‘no value’ in your relationship, you are essentially ‘not a man’. And with new relationships, the woman is often ‘hyper sexual’ (with little effort) because she’s going from ‘no-man/loneliness’ to ‘having a guy who cares about her’. So, increasing your sexual value (especially, dramatically) has a similar effect of her falling in love for the first time all over again.

10)Eliminating turn offs. The idea is to identify things that turn her off and stop doing them. You can go beyond that by figuring out her personal turn offs. Although, it’s technically not a direct tension builder (in most cases), you should still treat it as such.

Take care,

Mr. Guru

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Old 10-11-2018, 11:49 AM
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Re: Picking up KTV gals ouside KTVs

I also don't date girls, let the girls date me instead.

Learnt from Bro WB and this great thread.

Cheers.

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Bro WB

Great post below.

After reading I shall learn to say no by building sexual tension.

Let me share here my little experience.

I was interested in this girl AD. AD has a nice figure and elegant face. She often dress well and nice to bring out for a event.

I was infatuated with her and often wanted to go out with her. After she said no first few times, I did not give up and maintain contact.

Nowadays, I don't date her and let her date me. So I shall be the one to say when I am free to date. In the meantime, I date others as well.

So while enjoying myself I also hope she can date me.

Wish me luck and shall report here teh outcome.

Happy weekend.

Cheers.
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Old 11-11-2018, 09:46 AM
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Re: Picking up KTV gals ouside KTVs

A typical example of a BIG player who knew how to flirt and don't ge KC-ed easily.

This bro knew his tricks well and played the game well too.

Suggest read the forum for knowledge.


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This has been a most enlightening thread. Really learnt a lot from the many shifu esp bro Warbird. Just thought I had share an interesting thing that happened to me recently.

Was bored and fooling around with Wechat about three weeks ago. Saw a classy looking lady and dropped her a message. Replied and we started chatting. Her name is WW and I Found out she was working in Lido Palace. We messaged each other on a daily basis. I did a lot of teasing and joking around, and she also shared with me things about herself and her family, etc.

We arranged to meet up on a Saturday night to go out. First time seeing her was a little nervous but once we met, there was no uneasiness and it was as if we had known each other for a long time. She was a little meaty but her boobs were amazing and she had a really nice classy face which I really like. Brought her to eat at a Chinese restaurant and then went to drink at a pub.

I had one and half bottles of whisky left in the pub and we drank through the night. She can drink really well. She started getting quite touchy with me and I was the one who played it cool. One trick that I did was to move really close to her face and then just stare at her lips. Then I pulled back. This technique really worked cause on the third time I did it, she pouted her lips, and I went in for a peck on the lips. Subsequently, she started frenching me.

Her friends who were working, then joined us and I got a few bros to join me as well. We proceeded to another location which is a Thai Disco. By then, we were all pretty high. She started hugging me and even told me she wanted to go to my place. But she emphasized that it's just to sleep and not to do anything. (ya right!)

I flat out rejected by telling her that it's too fast, and I said I worry I can't control myself. We left it at that and I sent her back. We took a taxi back and I was waiting for her to ask me for money but she didn't! I was quite curious to see what game she is trying to play.

The next few days we continued texting and messaging each other. Pretty much the same. I continued to tease her and joke around and not treat her too seriously. To the point that she actually remarked that I don't care about her and just treat her like one of the boys. To which I replied "I treat you like one of the boys and also like a pretty babe. Thats the ultimate (in mandarin of course)".

We arranged to go out again on the public holiday. Not much clients at LIDO Palance on a public hol so she brought along three other of her friends. So it was one guy and four girls at the pub. A lot of social proof. I jioed one of my buddies to come down and he brought along two of his guy friends.

One of my ex- FB was also in the pub and she came over to join me. She's a pretty hot malaysian girl and she's right now my perfect wingman. The moment she came over, I could sense WW was uneasy even though she tried to be friendly. She was definitely jealous and started asking me who my malaysian friend was and other bo liao questions about her.

I wanted to F this WW very much but at the same time, I really wanted to know what game she is playing. So I looned and didn't suggest anything. After the partying, we went for supper and I sent her back. Again, she didn't mention anything about money.

The next day, she choot pattern already. I mentioned before about going on a trip together. So she told me to give her 6K and she would be with me for the whole month and also go on the trip with me. Again, I flatly rejected her telling her that I am not interested in this arrangement as I am not the type to BY girls. I also told her that I treated her as a friend and I would never pay money for a friend to go out with me. I told her she is more than welcome to go with any guy if she managed to secure a BY from him.

I basically cooled off after that and was ready to break contact with her. But she still carried on initiating contact with me. The last week I was very busy with work and she actually asked me to go out three times and all three times I couldn't make it, citing work which is actually the truth.

Yesterday after work, she got a bit tipsy and started texting me, getting quite emotional. The crux of her messages was that she also needed someone to share with her happiness, and sadness. And she didn't need someone to give her a lot of money, but she needed someone to give her emotional support. I didn't fall into her game but instead joked about it. I applied some push pull technique, complimented her, but at the same time teased her even more.

A moment ago, she just knocked off from work and texted me that she wanted to meet me to go drinking again. She said she missed me, etc. I didn't reply and she texted me like 4 messages, the last one which is "You don't have to pay for drinks. I will pay for it."!!!!!! That is pretty amazing. I still haven't replied her as i have no intention of going out tonight (lack of sleep from last night working).

I am really wondering what game this girl is playing. Any esteemed bros care to comment or advise?

Update:
She sent another message to jokingly suggest that If I don't reply her she would go and "find duck".... hahahaha


Deadcalm.
Bro WB

A classic reply from GrandMaster WB,

A WL is a woman working in men's entertainment establishment for money.

WL also have mood swings, emotional and passion. Always like to have close friends to de-stress and opposite sex to listen to her complains and blowout. Ultimately all boiled down to money. Money is the easiest to soothes her concerns.

Life can be funny and when this guy ignore the girl then the girl will go crazy thinking why is she not attractive enough that this guy don't want to sleep with her. This type of feeling can virtually made her losing sleep and she will want to find answers.

Others may have better explanation?

Wish all and GrandMaster WB nice weekend.



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Hi bro deadcalmer,

Thanks so much for ur detailed FR.

She is a WL n she is here for money. However, as a woman in a foreign country, she needs emotional connection n support. It's very likely that she has made enuff money working at high end KTVs n that she does ST (you can verify this by doing some investigation).

Kudos bro. You hv made all the right moves...by not paying her a penny, by not fxking her right away n by being very stingy w/ ur time. You hv demonstrated that u hv more sexual value than she. Your behaviour has created massive attraction n sets u apart from her customers/friends.

Only time will tell if she is playing game w/ u n whether she has an ulterior motive. It really doesn't matter what she is up to, as long as u continue to play it cool. You must make love to her very soon to establish a sexual RS, foc of course. Here is a warning though. Don't forget to practice safe sex. And never, ever get KC-ed.

On the other hand, you're spending quite a lot of time w/ this WL. It makes sense only if she is exceptionally pretty n sexy n totally ur type of pussy n has other attractive character traits, otherwise u should just fxk her, as suggested by bro justl00king below.

Just my 2 cents.

Other more experienced bros may hv a very different take on this.

Good luck,

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Old 11-11-2018, 09:55 AM
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Re: Picking up KTV gals ouside KTVs

After reading bro deadcalmer forum, I also wish to share mine.

This story was sometime ago.

I am keen with a girl who looks gorgeous. We went out a few times and each time she wanted to go back early claiming she needs to wake up early for work. This goes on for a month.

So I ignored her and did not text her for two months. She texted me and I didn't reply immediately. When I reply after two days later, I will always reply vaguely saying I am busy.

These goes on for another three months and she texted saying to date. As usual I will only reply days later claiming I was busy making money. SO ultimately we dated on a weekend. She did all the arrangement ie. where to eat dinner and what to do after. I just play along. Then she suggested we go somewhere private and I replied "need to wake up ealry tomorrow". She knew I am repeating her lines.

So all these went on adn finally we became an item

Hope brothers don't this story boring.

I practised GrandMAster WB theory.

1. I am the PRIZE
2. I have self-mastery.

Cheers.
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Nice read, great article to learn from.

Have a nice Sunday.

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A typical example of a BIG player who knew how to flirt and don't ge KC-ed easily.

This bro knew his tricks well and played the game well too.

Suggest read the forum for knowledge.

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After reading bro deadcalmer forum, I also wish to share mine.

This story was sometime ago.

I am keen with a girl who looks gorgeous. We went out a few times and each time she wanted to go back early claiming she needs to wake up early for work. This goes on for a month.

So I ignored her and did not text her for two months. She texted me and I didn't reply immediately. When I reply after two days later, I will always reply vaguely saying I am busy.

These goes on for another three months and she texted saying to date. As usual I will only reply days later claiming I was busy making money. SO ultimately we dated on a weekend. She did all the arrangement ie. where to eat dinner and what to do after. I just play along. Then she suggested we go somewhere private and I replied "need to wake up ealry tomorrow". She knew I am repeating her lines.

So all these went on adn finally we became an item

Hope brothers don't this story boring.

I practised GrandMAster WB theory.

1. I am the PRIZE
2. I have self-mastery.

Cheers.
I have similar experience too. Played hard to get for a while before we get together.

Cheers.
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Re: Picking up KTV gals ouside KTVs

What an auspicious Sunday!

A big thank you to all the samsters who hv posted here.

I'm in Gotham City n hv been very busy.
I wish I could reply to every post and give rep points to everyone. I'm trying hard.

I'm most gratified that many bros hv benefited from this thread over the last 9 plus years. But radical improvement is impossible unless a man has changed his mindset, body language and behaviour due to reprogramming of his subconscious mind n primal brain.

TY has been w/ me since 2 May this yr. She will turn 19 in a couple of months. Time flies.

She told me a week ago that she dreamt about me. I was very 'good ' to her...she became very emotional, cried and then she woke up.
She is my most frugal LP ever. She never dares to ask for any gifts or any extra money. She paid almost $700 to an ENT for an earache. She asked me if I would mind if she gets a transparent dental brace because she has two crooked lower canine teeth. They are small and I never even notice them. I said they look cute on her. In Japan, there is a trend for SYTs to make straight teeth crooked! She will pay for it herself, of course.

It's fortuitous that TY's CV distance is only 1.5cm! As a result, she would moan and scream throughout penetrative vaginal intercourse.

In early Oct, I told TY that 我下个月要离开你。She became very anxious n sad instantly,为什么。。。为什么。I replied,没为什么。I hugged her,she was tearing up,你答应过我,now almost crying,saying,你答应过我 ( Yes, I did promise to keep her for at least one yr, provided she doesn't work or hv any rs w/ anyone else), 你答应过我! I hugged her very tight。She started crying。 Then I said,我下个月去美国,几个星期后回来。Now crying loudly w/ lots of tears. I kissed her. She was still sobbing. 对不起, 对不起...she apologized for being so emotional. She is very submissive and is very afraid that I may leave her. She is hoping that I could keep her until she gets her degree.

I told an old friend Dr G about TY. He said I was very cruel to her. He is obsessed w/ her, after seeing her from a distance once. He is fascinated w/ Korean culture n she happens to be part Korean.

TY just asked me minutes ago if she could buy a cat. I hv to think about it.

A guru once remarked that for a girl to fall for you, you must:

Make her cry
Make her cum (hard n long)
Refuse sex w/ her occasionally

I concur.

But I like to add that you must also exhibit extreme masculine character traits such as dominance, assertiveness, courage, responsibility, reliability, optimism, emotional/self-mastery, ambitions, intelligence, decisiveness, kindness n compassion, etc. Having high status and financial security as a result, directly or indirectly, of your masculine character traits could only help.

Of course, you're always the PRIZE and hv higher social and sexual value than your dream girl. You hv zero neediness and insecurity and are NEVER afraid of losing her or anyone or anything else.

Cheers to all samsters!

Bro WB

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Below is a re-post of the great forum. So well written.
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Bro WB

Your reply to above forum is right on the money.


Bro WB

Well said and good reply.

Very important for man to possess self-mastery.

Cheers.
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This bro offers a different views.

Very good forum too.
Bro, tks.

Self mastery rules the world.

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Agreed, very important to possess self-mastery.

Thanks Bro WB for this excellent thread.
Thanks, bro.

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Bro WB

Very nice forum below.

A gal looking for a rich man to consider her future.

A classic pump and dump.

Cheers.
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Bro WB

Another nice forum from guru.

If a woman is upset then I will not want to be around her. Just plain simple answer.

Cheers.
Bro, tks.

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Bro WB

I agreed with you that if any gal willing to french with you (a guy) then her pussy is own by the you.

Short and simple message.

So now bro WB enjoying so much with EN.

Well done and hope you keep up the effort.

Cheers.
Bro, tks.

I stand by my statements. There may be a lapse of hours to months though.

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Bro WB - another simple message below.

"If she refuses to let u massage her neck, she doesn't want u to fxk her. Period."

Simple and yet many guys cannot comprehend this.

I will learned from all these simple things.

Cheers.
Bro, tks.

It's true only at that particular moment. She may change her mind after hours to months. It's not impossible that she will be sucking your didi and let u fuck her the very next day.

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Fully agreed on this too. Short and sharp.

Have to thank Bro WB for this wonderful thread.

Cheers.
Tks, bro.

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Good morning to Bro WB

What a great post from you about how a brother tried to hook your beloved LP. Actually very thrilling to you because means your beloved is really attractive.

The guru post below also taught me many things.

One point - Oxytoxin and Intense Orgasm.

Hope to learn more here.

Will be back!

Yo, bro.

If your girls are not hit on by many men every day, you should worry a lot. it may mean that she is unattractive.

TY is very cold and aloof and won't even look at or reply to any stranger. Her behaviour is to thwart the numerous wanted approaches. She is so much like my legal wife!

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Yes, also works for me too.

Great lessons here.

Cheers.

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Great, now this thread don't just pick up ktv or WLs. Also pickup students and air hostess.

Actually the skills garnered here can help to pickup any types of gals.

Cheers.

Yes bro.

Why limit yourself to KTV gals or singers? Every chio girl/woman of your type is a target. Never settle.


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Yes, means the gal wants to let you sex.



Bro WB

Thank you for a lovely thread here.

I have learned many points here and still have more to learn.

Honestly I have not much experiences with girls and maybe time to gather some new experiences.

Hope to learn more.

Read that I should go out to approach 100 to 200 girls.

Wish I can do all these.

Thanks and hope all have a good weekend.
Bro, tks.

You will get better n better.

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Bro WB

Definitely a longer term relationship will be better and satisfying.

The mentor also encouraged guy to date more and go out have more fun.

I shall follow both your and mentor advice.

Thank you.
Bro, I also like LT relationship. I hv not done ST since Jan 2017.

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Bro WB

I also couldn't agree with the author and you more.

I spent my weekends reading your prestigious 5 star thread with pleasure. I must say this are facts can never learn in any school.

First hand account and practices. Very useful conversations and correspondences.

Usually I shall read with a pinch of salt but not here. In fact I find the facts to be truthful.

Will continue reading and enjoying myself in the meantime.

Happy weekend.

Cheers.
Bro, tks for ur post.

My humble thread has been successful because of bros like you.

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Bro WB

Great post below.

After reading I shall learn to say no by building sexual tension.

Let me share here my little experience.

I was interested in this girl AD. AD has a nice figure and elegant face. She often dress well and nice to bring out for a event.

I was infatuated with her and often wanted to go out with her. After she said no first few times, I did not give up and maintain contact.

Nowadays, I don't date her and let her date me. So I shall be the one to say when I am free to date. In the meantime, I date others as well.

So while enjoying myself I also hope she can date me.

Wish me luck and shall report here teh outcome.

Happy weekend.

Cheers.
Bro, tks for ur FR.

You're doing well. Pls give us an update soon.

Quote:
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A typical example of a BIG player who knew how to flirt and don't ge KC-ed easily.

This bro knew his tricks well and played the game well too.

Suggest read the forum for knowledge.




Bro WB

A classic reply from GrandMaster WB,

A WL is a woman working in men's entertainment establishment for money.

WL also have mood swings, emotional and passion. Always like to have close friends to de-stress and opposite sex to listen to her complains and blowout. Ultimately all boiled down to money. Money is the easiest to soothes her concerns.

Life can be funny and when this guy ignore the girl then the girl will go crazy thinking why is she not attractive enough that this guy don't want to sleep with her. This type of feeling can virtually made her losing sleep and she will want to find answers.

Others may have better explanation?

Wish all and GrandMaster WB nice weekend.
Bro, tks.

No, I'm not a grand master. I'm still improving slowly.

Hope + Uncertainty = Attraction and Passion

Quote:
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After reading bro deadcalmer forum, I also wish to share mine.

This story was sometime ago.

I am keen with a girl who looks gorgeous. We went out a few times and each time she wanted to go back early claiming she needs to wake up early for work. This goes on for a month.

So I ignored her and did not text her for two months. She texted me and I didn't reply immediately. When I reply after two days later, I will always reply vaguely saying I am busy.

These goes on for another three months and she texted saying to date. As usual I will only reply days later claiming I was busy making money. SO ultimately we dated on a weekend. She did all the arrangement ie. where to eat dinner and what to do after. I just play along. Then she suggested we go somewhere private and I replied "need to wake up ealry tomorrow". She knew I am repeating her lines.

So all these went on adn finally we became an item

Hope brothers don't this story boring.

I practised GrandMAster WB theory.

1. I am the PRIZE
2. I have self-mastery.

Cheers.
Bro, tks for the FR.

You're becoming a master! Girls will be flocking to u soon.

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I have similar experience too. Played hard to get for a while before we get together.

Cheers.
Bro, tks.

You're right.

Attract, don't chase.

Cheers to all samsters!

Bro WB
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Slightly different context.... has anyone managed to score with KTV mummy?
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Slightly different context.... has anyone managed to score with KTV mummy?


IMHO , Viet mummy is easy , normally around 1 weeks time , just need to go down support them often and buy bubble tea (koi) and sometimes Vietnam food will do ... china mummy is quite hard ....
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