How to know if she truly loves you or just wants your money

[galaxyass]

Once she get into this trade, its a one way ticket... all other job sucks... because money is good and fast, plus they also get to enjoy during the process.... if you compare a normal office job, even if its a management post, the money still not as good... as for the love, they will really stop doing it while you support them, after awhile, they will look back and feel that they are underpaid as compare to their previous earning power... so nothing last forever... the worst part is the aftermath....

[bradpitt968]

Originally Posted by Lawrencegan

Yeah all done before- the point is when you are not around or near them, what do you think? Do you think they are sneaking out to find another man? Can you trust that they are not selling their pussy for more money?

Are you talking about you financially support them fully or no?

Even if you are financially fully supporting them, you need to keep them reasonably occupied daily. Best is let them do some work, some small business. If not, then she may get bored and do shit stuff. Especially if they have bad friends.

If a guy is not financially supporting them fully, then how is she going to support herself and takes care of her liability and responsibility?

You are referring to both of you NOT staying together but supporting her financially fully? This one is challenging because you are not there for her physically. If one is in this situation, very tricky.

If not staying with her, best is support her financially partially. But if you do that, then what do you expect her to do when her family needs money? Ask from you? Will you give? After you give her the money, would you feel that you "own" her?

So the biggest question is survival. If not enough money, she will have to find the money somewhere. Especially if she really love you and know that you are not very rich, how?

[bradpitt968]

Originally Posted by Darge

We MAN love challenges, thinking we can be hero saving WL… 😂

Yah. Or the pursue of everyday good sex? LOL!

[bradpitt968]

Originally Posted by Chrisk456

Agreed on this.

Singapore: Level 1
Long distance relationship: Level 2
Married with WL: Level 3

Folks, one must understand that this is a long game and in every level the difficulty notch goes up. Better to play blackjacks in casino with me you'll have a better chance of winning.

Yah. Being in relationship with a foreign gal is different. If want to be in a relationship with a ex-WLs in Geylang, will be even more challenging.

[bradpitt968]

Originally Posted by Rubbaking

Safest way is either have a cctv back at her home wherever there is or keep her by your side daily. The dutch and all rules I have encountered before as well but when she is low on cash, there is a tendency all will be back to square one. So unless one is ready to support her adequately for life, or enable her to have a decent business (but even business fails). These girls put survival above relationship, period. And to be fair, you cannot blame them as they do not have any back up.

Agree with you.

Cao Cao said before :

If you suspect the person, don't be with that person.
If you wanna be with that person, don't suspect that person.

If a person's mentality in relationship is "I own that person", that relationship is doom to fail. Matter of time.

Survival is important to all of us. We will do whatever to survive also.

[bradpitt968]

Originally Posted by Chrisk456

Its a rollercoaster ride of emotions. Hundreds of quarrels due to mistrust. Endless cycles of thoughts whenever she goes out alone without you or not sending prompt replies via message. Its mentally exhausting. I can only imagine. Just stop. Unless someone can watch her almost 24/7 then go ahead (which is impossible) otherwise just give up and find another woman. Not from the nightlife. They deserve love also but as a man, we also deserve peace in our romance life.

Cannot lah. Like that is not relationship liao. This is more like master and slave.

In relationship, remember that when it is gone, just know that it is part and parcel of life and move on.

How do we keep a person under surveiliance? This is crazy idea. It will not work. Plus it will make the person that setup all this more sad.

[bradpitt968]

Originally Posted by abcchinese8inch

I'm in this relationship for 6 month. Return thailand with her, met her family, had meal etc.

Even when going out, certain day she paid for the bill.

But guess LDR really doesn't work for ex-WL. When they spend finish their saving, they more or less going back to the same trade. That what happening to me now. Guess I should really just face the reality and move on.

Ok. You are on step in.

LDR can work if you have money and business. From what you described, means you are NOT financially supporting her and her family etc.

I got a friend. A businessman. He has family in Singapore. He purposely setup branches for his company in Thailand and Vietnam. Last I know he got one gal in Thailand and one gal in Vietnam. He bought a condo in BKK, bought a car and give the gal allowance monthly. I think he did the same for the gal in Vietnam too.

So having enough money, most problems can be solved. Problem is not enough money.

What option does she has? To be able to earn enough money to support herself and her family without having your financial support? Saving cannot last long enough, need regular income.

Frankly, did you ask yourself this question :
If a gal has to continue working as WL and earn enough money to support herself and family, what is your value preposition to this "relationship"?

Another question that you need to ask yourself is :
What is the aim / goal that you want to achieve being in this relationship?

[bradpitt968]

Originally Posted by abcchinese8inch

FYI I'm been giving her monthly allowance. Sufficient for basic needs plus condo rental. Initially promised to work normal office job as she was a uni graduate. Now after awhile whining about the low pay and tiring to work in bangkok office.

Guess she used to the high maintenance standard of living and spurging money.

Not enough one.

When we are working, we are trading our time for money. Are you willing to work harder to earn more money? Yes right? To them, working as WL is not a xiong job. Because some customers finished in 5mins or less and that's it. Not all customers can whack fo 1-2hrs non stop. To them, working as WL is like working as Massage Lady.

If you want to have a LDR with her and she working normal job in BKK, it will be hard for her and for you.

All this goes back to the question :
What is your aim / goal for this relationship with her?

[bradpitt968]

Originally Posted by Chrisk456

Then there must be something were missing here. Perhaps she's doing this trade for a long time and change is irreversible. She tried to change but the push wasn't enough (money and your time with her) at some point she felt lonely. Condo rent + basic needs is atleast $800-1000 in BKK, even cheaper in other locations and plus her salary perhaps she needed more for her family?? Or maybe she just like doing the flesh trade and shes missing it?? What did she say?? Its definitely more tiring getting fckd for 12 hours rather than working in the office (with freedom to go out after work).

I don't know whether they have places like Geylang Cat50/60 in Bangkok, so if they were to work in to Massage place like Alaina or Nancy, they will not get banged for 12hrs a day. Maybe 6-8hrs a day max over 6-8 customers only. Plus if most customer finishes in 20mins of less, the rest of the time is TCSS or massage. I can't remember exactly but for about 6 customers a day, they will get about $300. Plus they can choose when they want to work.

So they probably get about $5K/mth (since they won't get 6 customers everyday).

I don't think they miss it but it is just a "Means to an end".

[Chrisk456]

Originally Posted by bradpitt968

I don't know whether they have places like Geylang Cat50/60 in Bangkok, so if they were to work in to Massage place like Alaina or Nancy, they will not get banged for 12hrs a day. Maybe 6-8hrs a day max over 6-8 customers only. Plus if most customer finishes in 20mins of less, the rest of the time is TCSS or massage. I can't remember exactly but for about 6 customers a day, they will get about $300. Plus they can choose when they want to work.

So they probably get about $5K/mth (since they won't get 6 customers everyday).

I don't think they miss it but it is just a "Means to an end".

They might be earning a lot but its not plain and flat they receive that cut of money besides they wouldnt be working like that for the rest of their lives if they do. Ive seen the bank accounts of an ex-GL lady in over 1 year of working recently, I cant believe what I just saw. Its a lot of money but it didnt meet the expectation Ive had from their line of work but can definitely buy a house and a good secondhand car. After that they usually consider working in other country, the cycle is Taiwan and/or Dubai. Sometimes Taiwan comes first then Singapore.

The point being is its not always rainbows and butterflies in their industry. If someone would support them financially maybe they can fold and change. MAYBE. Theres always a chance for them to go back to the flesh trade especially when the need arises. Its hard to predict them.

[Chrisk456]

I also dont understand why some bros try their luck with an ex-GL/WL girl. I understand its easier to KC them but the long-distance bs? The money to be invested? The mental torture? Id rather go hit and miss with an SG girl. There are also PRC girls who work decently in restaurants or offices, theyre easy target too if they think of it. I have an officemate in her 30s, still single and shes hot. Like common. We can do better.

Just remember, some people are honored as "heroes" or "saints" after they die. Not before. Be careful everyone.

[abcchinese8inch]

Originally Posted by bradpitt968

Ok. You are on step in.

LDR can work if you have money and business. From what you described, means you are NOT financially supporting her and her family etc.

I got a friend. A businessman. He has family in Singapore. He purposely setup branches for his company in Thailand and Vietnam. Last I know he got one gal in Thailand and one gal in Vietnam. He bought a condo in BKK, bought a car and give the gal allowance monthly. I think he did the same for the gal in Vietnam too.

So having enough money, most problems can be solved. Problem is not enough money.

What option does she has? To be able to earn enough money to support herself and her family without having your financial support? Saving cannot last long enough, need regular income.

Frankly, did you ask yourself this question :
If a gal has to continue working as WL and earn enough money to support herself and family, what is your value preposition to this "relationship"?

Another question that you need to ask yourself is :
What is the aim / goal that you want to achieve being in this relationship?

Actually it's really sustainable if she just stick to proper job in BKK and with my monthly allowance. (Average middle class with no luxury spending).

She has no family to support, only have to take care of herself.

Doesn't want to give too much info, less people decipher which girl was it, but she end her stint in Singapore way early. She dump a richer guy for me.

But end of the day, think she wouldn't go back to normal lifestyle. And I think she now kinda blame me for urging her to return home.

Won't doubt she used to love me, but now... I think it all about money. Even my ex-WL friends ask me to forget her, stating they know what thai girl think and used themselves as a benchmark.

End of day I just have to move on. But this time round, I guess I gongtao deeply. Even go find others girl, enjoyed the session, but few hour later the emptiness creep in again.

[Chrisk456]

Originally Posted by abcchinese8inch

Actually it's really sustainable if she just stick to proper job in BKK and with my monthly allowance. (Average middle class with no luxury spending).

She has no family to support, only have to take care of herself.

Doesn't want to give too much info, less people decipher which girl was it, but she end her stint in Singapore way early. She dump a richer guy for me.

But end of the day, think she wouldn't go back to normal lifestyle. And I think she now kinda blame me for urging her to return home.

Won't doubt she used to love me, but now... I think it all about money. Even my ex-WL friends ask me to forget her, stating they know what thai girl think and used themselves as a benchmark.

End of day I just have to move on. But this time round, I guess I gongtao deeply. Even go find others girl, enjoyed the session, but few hour later the emptiness creep in again.

I understand. Maybe you promised her something and she expected more. I couldn't blame her. Every WL has a dream in mind whenever they go the flesh trade (i.e., pay debt/loan, buy house, education for kids etc). As for your WL whom you claimed to not support her family, finished uni, cut her card early, dumped a rich guy and loved you. I think she did everything on her part and you didn't. Monthly allowance is good but shes expecting more on this. How often do you visit her? How often you call each other?

In this world that we live in its always about the money bro. Even us. Love couldn't buy food, make ups, bags, neither plane tickets to Japan. Love isn't enough. I think you could've done more. But it is what it is. WLs expectations are higher than normal ladies out there.

[bonkning]

Originally Posted by abcchinese8inch

But this time round, I guess I gongtao deeply. Even go find others girl, enjoyed the session, but few hour later the emptiness creep in again.

its normal bro,...everytime a super regular leaves, its normal to feel lost n empty. it wil take some time...at least mayb 2,3months ..
but its going to be longer for your case...mayb 6 to 9 months....unless or until u find another soecial someone.
is it worth all the pain....idk.

[Rubbaking]

Originally Posted by bradpitt968

Cannot lah. Like that is not relationship liao. This is more like master and slave.

In relationship, remember that when it is gone, just know that it is part and parcel of life and move on.

How do we keep a person under surveiliance? This is crazy idea. It will not work. Plus it will make the person that setup all this more sad.

If the other party has the intention to cheat on you, no matter what you prepare, it will never be enough. So just let nature takes it course. Whatever is fated to belong to you will always end up with you without one doing anything. A relationship is not to stress one further when life on its own is already stressful enough.