Looking for feedback on this ML from sgcastle Vivian.
She seems to be around for a while now. Tried to find FR for her but SBF search function quite spastic will show whole thread. Scanned through them but not sure if its this Vivian since some of it was dated 2018.
What's illegal is the shop not having a proper licence or the ladies not doing the job as stated in their work pass.
In Singapore visiting a prostitute is not illegal as long as willing seller, willing buyer. If you are in condo or MP and is caught in the middle of a bust, they will take down your statement and particulars as proof to charge the FL/ML, not to charge you since you did not do anything illegal.
If you kuailan and piss them off, then they will really find something to charge you with like whether any porno in your phone.
They will not charge the FL/ML for prostitution per se, but for working without a permit (for PR on dependent pass) or not complying with their social/student passes. They will charge the MP for not complying with their business license. As a client they will not be able to charge you with buying the services as you can always claim that she offered you, unless you force yourself on her, then its rape.
What is illegal?
It is illegal to live off the earnings of a prostitute unless you are a legal GL brothel. This is why many promoters on SBF go to great lengths to say they are not OKT.
It is illegal to solicit for business.
It is illegal to promote the services of a prostitute online, which is why many of the SBF advertisers are not based in SG.
If the ML/FL have a pink NRIC, and operate out of a condo or hotel or better yet a SOHO setup, there is nothing much the MIB can do since it is not illegal to offer prostitution services as personal services provided you don't disrupt the peace for example have a queue of clients lining outside your door. If they want to, they can whack the FL for soliciting through SBF or other online media, but usually its not worth the trouble.
So generally the MIB will only whack the MPs since it is a licensing issue, or whack the FL if they operate from a housing unit shared by 2-3 FLs resulting in a "brothel" situation.
To be safe, make sure your phone is clean, you are not carrying any illicit substances and just tell them you came for a clean massage and the ML/FL offered you the extras.
Getting caught in an MP is not as bad as getting caught in a condo. At least you can tell your SO that you thought it was a clean joint and that you fell into temptation. She might be mad but not as mad as if she knew you intentionally looked up the ML/FL in her condo. Then you cannot say you don't know.
Under Covid rules, as long as you follow the regs, that is the ML/FL does not see more than 8 persons a day, and proper records are kept, then it is fine. I visited a FL under Dome 2 once and she had a business registered in her name and even have a QR code in her condo room. She asked me to scan the code before the service starts. :-)
By the way, prostitution is also NOT illegal in Malaysia under civil law, unless you are a muslim, then sharia law applies where it is illegal and you can be punished for visiting a prostitute especially if you are a muslim. I am not sure how strictly this applies to a non-muslim visiting a Malay FL. They may whip the FL but they also charge the client for close proximity to a woman who is not your wife.
However you cannot solicit for business, you cannot live off the earnings of a prostitute, you cannot run a brothel. It is a bit murky but section 372 seems to also prohibits you from seeking information for the purpose of prostitution or to accept advertisements, notices or displays related to prostitution.
When the Malaysia MIB catches you, they will ask you to unlock your phone. This is usually so they can find your relatives and threaten to call them unless you pay a "fine". You can refuse and ask to see a lawyer first. Don't let on you are desperate or afraid, then at the right moment offer to pay a "fine" and they will quietly let you go. They just want to scare you and get the "fine", they don't really want the extra paperwork and they don't really have a case anyway.
Conversely prostitution is illegal in Thailand. Go figure...
So when I cheong in Singapore or Malaysia, I usually swap my sim into another clean phone with no contacts nor any incriminating evidence.
In Singapore visiting a prostitute is not illegal as long as willing seller, willing buyer. If you are in condo or MP and is caught in the middle of a bust, they will take down your statement and particulars as proof to charge the FL/ML, not to charge you since you did not do anything illegal.
If you kuailan and piss them off, then they will really find something to charge you with like whether any porno in your phone.
They will not charge the FL/ML for prostitution per se, but for working without a permit (for PR on dependent pass) or not complying with their social/student passes. They will charge the MP for not complying with their business license. As a client they will not be able to charge you with buying the services as you can always claim that she offered you, unless you force yourself on her, then its rape.
What is illegal?
It is illegal to live off the earnings of a prostitute unless you are a legal GL brothel. This is why many promoters on SBF go to great lengths to say they are not OKT.
It is illegal to solicit for business.
It is illegal to promote the services of a prostitute online, which is why many of the SBF advertisers are not based in SG.
If the ML/FL have a pink NRIC, and operate out of a condo or hotel or better yet a SOHO setup, there is nothing much the MIB can do since it is not illegal to offer prostitution services as personal services provided you don't disrupt the peace for example have a queue of clients lining outside your door. If they want to, they can whack the FL for soliciting through SBF or other online media, but usually its not worth the trouble.
So generally the MIB will only whack the MPs since it is a licensing issue, or whack the FL if they operate from a housing unit shared by 2-3 FLs resulting in a "brothel" situation.
To be safe, make sure your phone is clean, you are not carrying any illicit substances and just tell them you came for a clean massage and the ML/FL offered you the extras.
Getting caught in an MP is not as bad as getting caught in a condo. At least you can tell your SO that you thought it was a clean joint and that you fell into temptation. She might be mad but not as mad as if she knew you intentionally looked up the ML/FL in her condo. Then you cannot say you don't know.
Under Covid rules, as long as you follow the regs, that is the ML/FL does not see more than 8 persons a day, and proper records are kept, then it is fine. I visited a FL under Dome 2 once and she had a business registered in her name and even have a QR code in her condo room. She asked me to scan the code before the service starts. :-)
By the way, prostitution is also NOT illegal in Malaysia under civil law, unless you are a muslim, then sharia law applies where it is illegal and you can be punished for visiting a prostitute especially if you are a muslim. I am not sure how strictly this applies to a non-muslim visiting a Malay FL. They may whip the FL but they also charge the client for close proximity to a woman who is not your wife.
However you cannot solicit for business, you cannot live off the earnings of a prostitute, you cannot run a brothel. It is a bit murky but section 372 seems to also prohibits you from seeking information for the purpose of prostitution or to accept advertisements, notices or displays related to prostitution.
When the Malaysia MIB catches you, they will ask you to unlock your phone. This is usually so they can find your relatives and threaten to call them unless you pay a "fine". You can refuse and ask to see a lawyer first. Don't let on you are desperate or afraid, then at the right moment offer to pay a "fine" and they will quietly let you go. They just want to scare you and get the "fine", they don't really want the extra paperwork and they don't really have a case anyway.
Conversely prostitution is illegal in Thailand. Go figure...
So when I cheong in Singapore or Malaysia, I usually swap my sim into another clean phone with no contacts nor any incriminating evidence.
Bro tks for the sharing. This is by far the most enlightening and clearest details on the law and what happens if get caught and what to do.
Upped you for the sharing
Last edited by jgosh80; 11-03-2021 at 03:10 PM.
Reason: Added Comments
Under Covid rules, as long as you follow the regs, that is the ML/FL does not see more than 8 persons a day, and proper records are kept, then it is fine. I visited a FL under Dome 2 once and she had a business registered in her name and even have a QR code in her condo room. She asked me to scan the code before the service starts. :-) .
I doubt this is real..
I though is gathering with 8ppl at same time?
I have been out of action for a while;only back recently. But bro,笑笑 is good.nice girl,gfe is gao gao!sure u will enjoy.I visited her last year.I still wish her sister LL will be back. Prefer her though.
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Originally Posted by hiongsterscv
I find XX quite good as compared to other ML. But YMMV. she said she'll be here at least 1 yr, or when she think she earned enough..
Quite a good session. She’s pretty, and only downside is her A-cup boobs. Very good GFE, like making out with gf during poly! Will RTM.
I doubt this is real..
I though is gathering with 8ppl at same time?
Haha
The maximum group size for social gatherings outside the house will remain at eight
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Cap of 8 visitors per day in each household. I.e, condo/home based theoretically can only have 8 visitors per day.
What is illegal?
It is illegal to live off the earnings of a prostitute unless you are a legal GL brothel. This is why many promoters on SBF kio I go to great lengths to say they are not OKT.
It is illegal to solicit for business.
It is illegal to promote the services of a prostitute online, which is why many of the SBF advertisers are not based in SG.
Great sharing.
To add on, buying sex from, or having sex with, a minor (under 16 years of age) is illegal.
Met Cheryl few days ago.
Looks: About mid to late 30s, huge breasts, slim body, no ass, average looking face with light makeup. Smells nice. Speaks good English and is friendly.
Service:
After shower I laid down on the air mattress as Cheryl strips naked. She pours the hot Nuru oil over my back and slides up and down. She would tease my balls, cock and Asshole with her nails. She would let out frequent fake moans as she slides.
Turn over and she pours more oil over me till I’m drenched as she begins to slide up and down massaging my cock with her huge breasts. She then gets into a 69 position and slides down to my feet and would poke her pussy and asshole in my face. Her pussy was clean shaven and was plumb looking delicious to eat. As she approached closer to me I licked her pussy and asshole as she jerked, she did not anticipate that. She didn’t tell me off but just slid away to my feet. She came back again and I did the same but she let out a small moan and stopped as I kept licking. Now she was sitting on my face while I was eating her pussy. She slowly began to rub my cock. After couple of minutes her body shaked like she was cumming. She climbed off me and smiled and continued to give me a HJ till I cum all over her hand.
I washed up and tipped her and she said to visit her again soon
Met Cheryl few days ago.
Looks: About mid to late 30s, huge breasts, slim body, no ass, average looking face with light makeup. Smells nice. Speaks good English and is friendly.
Service:
After shower I laid down on the air mattress as Cheryl strips naked. She pours the hot Nuru oil over my back and slides up and down. She would tease my balls, cock and Asshole with her nails. She would let out frequent fake moans as she slides.
Turn over and she pours more oil over me till I’m drenched as she begins to slide up and down massaging my cock with her huge breasts. She then gets into a 69 position and slides down to my feet and would poke her pussy and asshole in my face. Her pussy was clean shaven and was plumb looking delicious to eat. As she approached closer to me I licked her pussy and asshole as she jerked, she did not anticipate that. She didn’t tell me off but just slid away to my feet. She came back again and I did the same but she let out a small moan and stopped as I kept licking. Now she was sitting on my face while I was eating her pussy. She slowly began to rub my cock. After couple of minutes her body shaked like she was cumming. She climbed off me and smiled and continued to give me a HJ till I cum all over her hand.
I washed up and tipped her and she said to visit her again soon
To add on, buying sex from, or having sex with, a minor (under 16 years of age) is illegal.
Bro iirc, having sex with a minor, under 16, is illegal. That is correct.
But when paying for sex with a person, it's under 18 years old which is illegal. Remember some years ago, that young local prostitute who had so many guys hauled to court because she wasn't 18 yet?