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Originally Posted by Johndick
The Vanilla Syndicate...and have different clans, like the AN family etc lol
Jokes aside my 2 cents on ML give attitude when kena touch at areas they deem out of bounds. I will make my decision on whether she is worth RTM based on HOW it happened.
Some of us may ask for access rights before trying to touch, be it tits or south, if the ML reject politely or even firmly (not to be confused with rude telling us off), then it's fine imo. If after they declined and we still horny and try our luck, then whatever sour the session we can't really pin the blame on her.
If we adopt the don't ask and just try to touch, then it will really depends on how experienced the ML in dealing with such situations, which should be very common anyway. Seasoned ones will just remove or even swipe off our hands follow with her reasons. That to me is fine too, coz we took a chance w/o seeking permission anyway. If she gets very offended and show attitude or black face, I still feel we share 50% of the blame. As to RTM or not for such case, really depends on how offended WE feel with her reaction or how the session recovers (if at all) after that incident.
End of the day sometimes we get caught up with the idea that coz we pay for the session, we are entitled to do a things to them which we ASSUME to be very normal to girls in their trade. Reality is each girl have their own threshold which they either refuse to cross to preserve something sacred to them,or only willing to allow if the chemistry/or price is met.
FL is the most comprehensive services, but many don't allow kissing let alone speak French. ML whom focuses on massage may allow frenching but no touch south. ML whom allow painting may not allow suckle tits. You get the idea la, the permutations are endless, all we need to understand is, THEY dictate the boundaries coz it is THEIR body afterall. Caveat is if they list the service/access in the website, they jolly well abide to what was agreed before hand. If they didn't, then we ought to respect their limitations.
Not meant to rub anyone the wrong way with this post, but some of these thoughts will help us manage expectations and more importantly, rejection lol, which will in turn lessen the chance of an unpleasant session. Working lady or not, they are still lady, respect their constraints and who knows, maybe you earn enough respect from her for obeying her boundaries and she may slowly lower her defences  |
more guys need to read this
i don't think people here should be exacting their hate on the girls but some of the girls do see some freaks of nature, which can lead to outbursts such as that seen by xx. i've met xx several times during her stay here and she is very much a down to earth person and just trying to make things work. that bro that said he got aeroplaned? she has never done it and in fact has turned down customers who try to slot themselves ahead of others by paying more.
people here choose girls based on looks and skills and they too have a choice on customers, particularly rejecting the freaks, often due to excessive personal harassment almost bordering on physical intimidation, as seen from xx's posts. but time and time again these freaks are the ones that threaten to call the police on them upon rejection. if you put yourself in the girls' shoes, on top of managing the task of not being apprehended by police, you have to deal with freaks, don't forget these girls are young, early to mid 20s, and they have to deal with this kind of mental stress. you guys here are fortunate enough to be born in a first world country without having to entertain entering the sex trade for a decent shot at life and the biggest stress you have now is some massage girl ignoring your request for a session. think about it.
all i am saying is after you're done having a good time, have some empathy. on post nut clarity you are in the best position to understand the difficult situation some of the girls are in and be a proper human being. it's not a trade most want to do 100% willingly but while they are here, you can try to practise abit more empathy. empathy here doesn't mean showering financial rain on the girls but more like understanding that some of these girls can have terrible days given the trade they are in. customer is also in a position of power be it legally or financially and the freaks tend to abuse this position to the maximum, hurting the girls emotionally and adding mental stress.
i have been rejected by tonnes of massage girls and i move on, i don't post anywhere, don't kick up a big fuss on service level. just look for the one that treats you well and stay with her. it isn't that hard and doesn't have to be so dramatic.
at the end of the day, there are bros here who think they are getting the short end of the stick getting disrespected either on response or service levels, but it is actually the fucked up guys out there ruining the working conditions for these girls leading to burning out and then to have no way to deal with the situation given where they are age wise, mentally and financially.