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Re: Batam Info / Interest / Help Thread

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Originally Posted by iicycold View Post
no need cockvid19 to kill u....u yr ownself kill yr ownself liao....lol

btw, i imagine u look like one of the pa gui character inside the game...lol

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nw i nthg 2 do stay hm play game....
Believe me, both Batam and Singapore will open up gradually itself before a vaccine is found. My guess is, Batam will restrict people from other parts of province of Indonesia (especially Jakarta and other ongoing virus-hit Indo province) from coming to Batam. Its already in the news.

There will definitely be traveling restriction and the likelihood to wear a mask and taking precaution to some certain extend as needed. As written....

https://sbfsg.org/showpost.php?p=19...ostcount=16171

...can we take the game further? It will be up to how well we (maybe just "i") understand the "enemy".

Remember i said before, the "enemy" is in the air. The battle is definitely in the air. Note here i use the word "battle" and not "war" because the "enemy" is in infinite number. Not considered a war...as yet.

But as for defence for the time, it mainly lies with attitude, masking up, Vaccine, public behavior and personal hygiene.

Its a never-ending war...unless someone took a step ahead with a vaccine before coronavirus could mutate further. Meaning, that "someone" produce a vaccine for convid-20 instead of just covid-19, or be able to cover both. Who knows? Covid-21/22/23?

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Originally Posted by OnlyLiveOnce View Post
The main unknown factor will be the ceweks should you decide to socialise with one or more of them during the trip.
More like HIV/AIDS but in airborne mode. Lots of "who knows?" in time to come (before a vaccine is out).

Who knows there might be a quick way/s to tell who got the virus, and who didnt? Who knows there might be some precaution/s one could take with certain limitation/s? Eg, if one didnt know if a girl has HIV or some STDs, hence a condom is worn etc.

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Originally Posted by Hurricane88 View Post
IS like wearing this EA Masks sell like hot cakes...
Sort of, like the Japanese "dog-tag" i was talking about, the EA mask is just one of them. I dont need to know if it even works. Many sites claim it doesnt, and it's poisonous (if in inhale in ultra large amount), Hongkong totally banned it, Singapore says online seller over-claiming it etc. But i am using it and i use a lot of it in different variation (especially the liquid version).

1. Does Sodium Chlorite if use appropriately works in deactivate Virus/Bacteria in the air and surface?

Answer : Yes/No

2. Does one single "dog-tag" emits enough chlorine dioxide or other poisonous substance to kill or hurt a living human/animal?

Answer : Yes/No

2a. If answer is No, then how about multiply the "dog-tag" by 10?

Answer : Yes/No

2b. If answer is STILL No, then how about multiply the "dog-tag" by 100?

Answer : Yes/No

* i wish to say multiply by 1000 but who would wear 1000 tags round their neck? Hehehe....

Note here that when i talk about those "dog-tag", i am talking about those made in Japan/Korea ones only. And not those made in China or any other countries.

Farmers in Taiwan been using Chlorine Dioxide (CLO2) tablet dissolve in 1000ml water to sanitize their area years ago before the epidemic started. They have been successful and i am learning. And to top it up, its cheap and efficient.

I have a choice between liquid ethyl alcohol and Chlorine Dioxide (CLO2) for aerosol vaporization against the "enemy" on air.

https://sbfsg.org/showpost.php?p=19...ostcount=16160

Did a bit of online research and learn that its by far one of the safest. Even wearing a surgical/face mask can have side effects, let alone something chemicalized. UVC Ozone sanitizing has its side effect too, some US states even banned it. Alcohol would cause more harm directly on skin if misuse (especially when its flamable).


One thing i am sure, assuming i have been swimming at least once a week in swimming pools for few decades, but i havent died from chlorine poisoning as yet,hehehe....and probably wont be for another few decades, but i cant say the same if i come in contact directly with alcohol ,UVC or even via wearing a surgical/clinical/face mask for as much time as i am in contact with in a swimming pool.

In my line of work, every kind of chemical we use daily in life has some level of side effect (especially bad if misuse). Just like a frog in a pot of water, with the water temperature going up 1°C every few hours.

Using alcohol is like bring up the frog in the water pot's temperature by 1°C everyday, using UVC is like 1°C up every 90mins, and a mask probably brings up the temperature by 1°C every 30 days. And Chlorine Dioxide (CLO2) is like 1°C every 15 days? Well, its just my illustration.

Chlorhexidine Gluconate and Ethanol Facts
Hand hygiene is the single most effective infection prevention measure. Chlorhexidine solutions are often used for hand hygiene in the hospital setting. Alcohol preparations may have the quickest kill rate against bacteria, but chlorhexidine has a much longer duration of action. Products with chlorhexidine in combination with alcohol have been shown to be more effective than alcohol alone. Hand washing with chlorhexidine solutions has been shown to reduce skin flora by 86% – 92%.

Is chlorine dioxide harmful to humans?
Safety Information
Chlorine dioxide is used to disinfect drinking water around the world. ... In its pure form, chlorine dioxide is a hazardous gas but most people are “not likely” to breathe air containing dangerous levels of chlorine dioxide as it rapidly breaks down in air to chlorine gas and oxygen.

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So, i improvise them a little, minus the hassle of that heavy bulky machine (not exactly heavy if the solution is not added),hehehe...not forgetting the liquid solution.


You may wish to ask, why not use other kind of spray bottle instead, or those pocket sized bottle? That was becos the bottle you see on the above photo, is a mist spray instead of a water spray.

Big difference.

200ml of water in a water spray bottle could last perhaps 100 squeeze. But 200ml of water inside a mist bottle could last almost double the amount of squeeze. Covers a bigger angle range too.
Been looking into this method to clean my future favorite hotel room in Batam. And i am keeping the UVC method open too,since its the cheapest method.

Side note : This post isnt mean just for you, its just a general reference of what i have found for my preparation in my next trip to Batam.

There is another method which i am currently looking at right now. Salt, water mixed with some kind of Electrolysis,hehehe..turning it into Hypochlorous Acid Water.

Still learning.
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