[Franco_Barsei]

Regarding this KC trap issue, all I can say is that some of us have to learn the hard way.

I can identify with some of the newbies because they sounded like me in the past.

I started this game when I was still a tertiary student in the mid-2000s. Was single and never had a partner before then so wanted to experience GFE.

My first and worst KC trap was at this (legendary) joint known at various points as Spa Orange/Halu Halu/Geisha Place.

(Yes, @ShittyAss, that place again.)

Interested in this (older) lady working there,brought her out on fully-paid for shopping trips. Luckily, she didn't squeeze me dry by wanting to buy expensive jewelry and shoes. Nevertheless, bought her clothes and accessories. Blew a few hundred dollars on her during each trip just to hold her hand and experience what was considered mythical to me then – GFE.

I also bought good food for her co-workers each time I visited the shop so as to get into her good books by behaving like a towkay.

Honestly, I had no end-state in mind, but emotions reigned and I continued what I was doing. Gradually, I became numb to it and one day, I realised that I spent around $5.5k on her, all in, over a period of slightly less than two months.

For what? To feel GFE during each shopping trip of a couple of hours each week?

So for those dudes who are thinking of bringing a WL out, you probably have no end-state too and just want to revel in the moment of holding a lady's hand as well as experiencing GFE for probably the first time in your life.