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Originally Posted by TomMAffolter
sure that can happen, but my WHOLE point was that to use a few bad apples as a generalisation against the whole male population is bordering on racist and is wrong and factually incorrect...i remember reading a story about a similar situation in zouk...so what now i can use that as a example saying that ALL singporean men are gang rapists as well.??..or maybe i i can use the example of the crusty old male english teachers hanging around AC. pattaya and even bui vien and i can make some disparaging remark abt all white men....u cant use what 2 examples of bad behaviour then make a sweeping comment like you did.
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At the first club I mentioned, I got to know one of the girls well. She told me that what I saw that night was common at that club. I was also there on nights when everyone seemed to be behaving respectably, so I'd never generalize and say that's how VN guys are as a whole, but does that mentality exist here? Definitely. It tends to be a bunch of friends out together, when I've seen it, and most that I saw were lower class uneducated types. It's not borderline racist, you just don't see the same dynamic here with other nationalities just because it's not their country, so they don't feel comfortable enough to do that here, not that I've seen at least. So I'm not saying that allVN guys are like that, no. But some surely are. (and I can imagine similar attitudes exist in other countries too) And I think there's enough of that here that girls in lower rung scenes (motorbikes, SW, some locals clubs, etc) encounter this regularly. You're telling me that I'm generalizing based on a few experiences, but are you not doing that? I'm just saying guys like that are a segment that's out there, for sure. Not sure exactly how common, but common enough that I've had a few girls complain to me about those guys, and that I've witnessed those things I described.