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trichard 07-11-2017 09:07 PM

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Massage outlets in Housing Development Board (HDB) areas will not be allowed to operate 24 hours when changes to the law on such establishments come into effect.

These outlets can only operate from 6am to 11pm as part of tighter operating conditions, Second Minister for Home Affairs Josephine Teo said in Parliament on Monday (6 November).

The new conditions apply to licenses granted or renewed since August this year and will be fully implemented for all licensees within HDB estates after the amended law comes into force, Teo said, as part of changes to the Massage Establishments Bill, which was passed in Parliament.

The planned measures are part of a slew of enforcement actions for massage parlours, which include stricter penalties on operators of unlicensed massage establishments as well as non-compliant operators of licensed businesses.

Under the amended Bill, operators of unlicensed establishments can be fined up to $10,000 and/or jailed up to two years. This is a tenfold increase from the current maximum fine of $1,000. A second offender can be fined a maximum of $20,000 and/or jailed up to five years, the Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) announced early last month.

Teo cited figures that showed a 40 per cent increase in the number of unlicensed massage establishments found by the police from 2013 to 2016.

“Many of these were not in fact massage establishments, but fronts for vice activities. The proverbial, wolf in sheep’s clothing, or what in Chinese we refer to, gua yang tou, mai gou rou,” said Teo.

Teo, who is also Member of Parliament for Bishan-Toa Payoh GRC, said that there are some 300 licensed massage establishments in HDB estates, out of a total of 1,200 licensed outlets islandwide. Out of the licensed outlets, less than 3 per cent were found to operate vice activities, as compared to 40 per cent of unlicensed outlets carrying out such activities, the police discovered in 2016.

The minister added that with enhanced powers, the police would be able to “take swift and effective action against errant licensees”.

Licensing officers of the establishments would have the power to modify license conditions promptly to deal with massage establishment-related problems, said Teo. For example, if a licensed outlet poses law and order issues, licensing officers can restrict its operating hours.

Errant landlords who allow vice activities to be carried out in their premises will also be clamped down, said Teo. Irresponsible landlords face the same penalties as operators of illicit massage establishments under the amended law.

A total of 11 MPs raised follow-up questions in response to the amendments, including on restricting the number of massage establishments in HDB areas, tighter curbs on advertisements, a demerit system for such establishments, and introducing licensing for masseuses.

Foo Mee Har, MP for West Coast GRC, said that she has received complaints from residents about advertising materials from massage outlets that feature “half naked women [displayed] prominently on shop fronts which operate 24 hours a day”.

She added that some massage establishments have been deceptive in offering their services.

“Many outlets make misleading claims about the advocacy of the massage treatments, with the menu of services offering lymphoma detox, kidney care treatment, ovary care treatment and so on. Some go on to promote special services. For example, one spa promotes their royal prostate package, offering customers two hours of prostate care therapy,” said Foo.

In response, Teo said the police intend to impose new licensing conditions to prohibit licensees from displaying indecent advertisements.

“We will need some time to work out the specific details, but the intent is clear. Advertisements will have to be within certain guidelines,” she said.

rey69 07-11-2017 09:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by trichard (Post 16646719)
Massage outlets in Housing Development Board (HDB) areas will not be allowed to operate 24 hours when changes to the law on such establishments come into effect.

These outlets can only operate from 6am to 11pm as part of tighter operating conditions, Second Minister for Home Affairs Josephine Teo said in Parliament on Monday (6 November).

The new conditions apply to licenses granted or renewed since August this year and will be fully implemented for all licensees within HDB estates after the amended law comes into force, Teo said, as part of changes to the Massage Establishments Bill, which was passed in Parliament.

The planned measures are part of a slew of enforcement actions for massage parlours, which include stricter penalties on operators of unlicensed massage establishments as well as non-compliant operators of licensed businesses.

Under the amended Bill, operators of unlicensed establishments can be fined up to $10,000 and/or jailed up to two years. This is a tenfold increase from the current maximum fine of $1,000. A second offender can be fined a maximum of $20,000 and/or jailed up to five years, the Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) announced early last month.

Teo cited figures that showed a 40 per cent increase in the number of unlicensed massage establishments found by the police from 2013 to 2016.

“Many of these were not in fact massage establishments, but fronts for vice activities. The proverbial, wolf in sheep’s clothing, or what in Chinese we refer to, gua yang tou, mai gou rou,” said Teo.

Teo, who is also Member of Parliament for Bishan-Toa Payoh GRC, said that there are some 300 licensed massage establishments in HDB estates, out of a total of 1,200 licensed outlets islandwide. Out of the licensed outlets, less than 3 per cent were found to operate vice activities, as compared to 40 per cent of unlicensed outlets carrying out such activities, the police discovered in 2016.

The minister added that with enhanced powers, the police would be able to “take swift and effective action against errant licensees”.

Licensing officers of the establishments would have the power to modify license conditions promptly to deal with massage establishment-related problems, said Teo. For example, if a licensed outlet poses law and order issues, licensing officers can restrict its operating hours.

Errant landlords who allow vice activities to be carried out in their premises will also be clamped down, said Teo. Irresponsible landlords face the same penalties as operators of illicit massage establishments under the amended law.

A total of 11 MPs raised follow-up questions in response to the amendments, including on restricting the number of massage establishments in HDB areas, tighter curbs on advertisements, a demerit system for such establishments, and introducing licensing for masseuses.

Foo Mee Har, MP for West Coast GRC, said that she has received complaints from residents about advertising materials from massage outlets that feature “half naked women [displayed] prominently on shop fronts which operate 24 hours a day”.

She added that some massage establishments have been deceptive in offering their services.

“Many outlets make misleading claims about the advocacy of the massage treatments, with the menu of services offering lymphoma detox, kidney care treatment, ovary care treatment and so on. Some go on to promote special services. For example, one spa promotes their royal prostate package, offering customers two hours of prostate care therapy,” said Foo.

In response, Teo said the police intend to impose new licensing conditions to prohibit licensees from displaying indecent advertisements.

“We will need some time to work out the specific details, but the intent is clear. Advertisements will have to be within certain guidelines,” she said.

Maybe Teo & Foo need to try working as masseur?
Then they know their far-fetched salary are not easy to earn...at the expense of our taxpayers $$$.

I doubt they could earn a fraction of that good $$$ ?:D

rey69 07-11-2017 09:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RoadsterRTM (Post 16644762)
She wants Singaporeans to do at small spaces at home.

Uncle feels bad for those family man who can only can only get out for a clean rub after the kids sleep...

In a matter of fact, bonking in small cubicle of mp feels like confined space.
Thanks to sg high rental cost.

rey69 07-11-2017 09:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HonkyTonkyMan (Post 16644279)
this bitch seems to be against all things sex...maybe husband haven't been giving her..:mad:

Maybe she 性饥渴 or her hubby 性无能?
Else, her huaband also frequents mp?

trichard 07-11-2017 09:30 PM

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But seriously.. HDB spa should all gather at a designated place like geylang...

Having a few MP in housing estate no matter what doesn't fit well.... The impression already not suitable .. sorry to say that 按摩院 impression cannot cut away from 色情 no matter how clean it is...

HDB cannot accept this also as a fact....

tangerinesex 08-11-2017 02:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by trichard (Post 16645082)
All HDB spa should gather at a common place ba... Like geylang .... So that keep away from HDB ...

This way will minimize issue in HDB area ... Imagine a kid ask mama... 妈妈什么是按摩院?我同学说有打飞机。

All this tightening of regulation is not just to stamp out the vice trade, but to ensure individuals don't have a revenue stream that is not taxable. During the heydays of the good old health centres, MLs could easily make $15k a month doing all kinds of stuff on the side, and that income was never declared. IRAS had no way of tracking their income, so it was revenue lost for the powers that be. The difference between these women and those in Geylang is that those in the Lorongs render unto Caesar what belongs to Caesar. You siam tax, you are robbing the govt

sionglim 08-11-2017 03:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by trichard (Post 16646793)
But seriously.. HDB spa should all gather at a designated place like geylang...

Having a few MP in housing estate no matter what doesn't fit well.... The impression already not suitable .. sorry to say that 按摩院 impression cannot cut away from 色情 no matter how clean it is...

HDB cannot accept this also as a fact....

At gl no case trust accredited

trichard 08-11-2017 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tangerinesex (Post 16647601)
All this tightening of regulation is not just to stamp out the vice trade, but to ensure individuals don't have a revenue stream that is not taxable. During the heydays of the good old health centres, MLs could easily make $15k a month doing all kinds of stuff on the side, and that income was never declared. IRAS had no way of tracking their income, so it was revenue lost for the powers that be. The difference between these women and those in Geylang is that those in the Lorongs render unto Caesar what belongs to Caesar. You siam tax, you are robbing the govt

Seriously... 15K ?? Each day is 500... Pussy can tahan ?
....

Ninja Master 08-11-2017 09:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by trichard (Post 16647805)
Seriously... 15K ?? Each day is 500... Pussy can tahan ?
....

you will be surprise at their resolute when it comes to money bro. they can tahan what most cannot:(

anyway not all income will involve the pussy.... some can earn money just chit chatting... some just do body.but still tough money nonetheless.

I always see them as pro sportsman.... their earning power is high for a short period of time. once past that... they fall back down to earth and join the rest of us earthlings earning "norm" pay.

if they can money manage well during their peak, they wont have much to worry when they are older.

by then, they probably looking for someone to spend the rest of their lives with....

Mistrevia 08-11-2017 10:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by trichard (Post 16647805)
Seriously... 15K ?? Each day is 500... Pussy can tahan ?
....

Dont be surprise at the amount of "roberts" around.

trichard 08-11-2017 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Ninja Master (Post 16648192)
you will be surprise at their resolute when it comes to money bro. they can tahan what most cannot:(

anyway not all income will involve the pussy.... some can earn money just chit chatting... some just do body.but still tough money nonetheless.

I always see them as pro sportsman.... their earning power is high for a short period of time. once past that... they fall back down to earth and join the rest of us earthlings earning "norm" pay.

if they can money manage well during their peak, they wont have much to worry when they are older.

by then, they probably looking for someone to spend the rest of their lives with....

15K a Month can tahan .... How long man...

KREMIL 08-11-2017 01:01 PM

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+2 upp for Suggestion of the DAY :p

Quote:

Originally Posted by rey69 (Post 16646755)
Maybe Teo & Foo need to try working as masseur?
Then they know their far-fetched salary are not easy to earn...at the expense of our taxpayers $$$.

I doubt they could earn a fraction of that good $$$ ?:D


SAFFRONnation 08-11-2017 01:07 PM

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45 missiles for a Clear explanation of S'pore system :p

Quote:

Originally Posted by tangerinesex (Post 16647601)
All this tightening of regulation is not just to stamp out the vice trade, but to ensure individuals don't have a revenue stream that is not taxable. During the heydays of the good old health centres, MLs could easily make $15k a month doing all kinds of stuff on the side, and that income was never declared. IRAS had no way of tracking their income, so it was revenue lost for the powers that be. The difference between these women and those in Geylang is that those in the Lorongs render unto Caesar what belongs to Caesar. You siam tax, you are robbing the govt


chuyinyeng 08-11-2017 01:12 PM

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~15k is the average, from my knowledge, the catch of attracting girls for coming to SG is 20k per months.

20k per month is average, if ang pai will be 30-50k varying there.

The formula is simple, jz to make it fairly clearer.

50k / 25 days of working excluding Code Red = 2000/ days

2000/ 100/120/150 = 20/17/14 sessions.

still pretty viable for most of the ML. Perhaps this is what they solely wish for.

bpafree39 08-11-2017 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuyinyeng (Post 16648956)
~15k is the average, from my knowledge, the catch of attracting girls for coming to SG is 20k per months.

20k per month is average, if ang pai will be 30-50k varying there.

The formula is simple, jz to make it fairly clearer.

50k / 25 days of working excluding Code Red = 2000/ days

2000/ 100/120/150 = 20/17/14 sessions.

still pretty viable for most of the ML. Perhaps this is what they solely wish for.

Agreed, some of them can easily hit $40-$50k per month. Even code red they provide HJ or BJ etc. Some after work sleepover at hotel with client, some work 24hrs shift without rest so it’s definitely within reach.

252525 08-11-2017 02:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bpafree39 (Post 16648986)
Agreed, some of them can easily hit $40-$50k per month. Even code red they provide HJ or BJ etc. Some after work sleepover at hotel with client, some work 24hrs shift without rest so it’s definitely within reach.

Eat too full write all this useless thing here for what

trichard 08-11-2017 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 252525 (Post 16649174)
Eat too full write all this useless thing here for what

LOL...... That is indeed too much
.

RedDog 08-11-2017 08:25 PM

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Go to clean spa for good massage

rey69 08-11-2017 09:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KREMIL (Post 16648938)
+2 upp for Suggestion of the DAY :p

Appreciated :)

tangerinesex 09-11-2017 12:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SAFFRONnation (Post 16648946)
45 missiles for a Clear explanation of S'pore system :p

Thanks bro for the massive heads up

the_e_ones 09-11-2017 11:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RoadsterRTM (Post 16644762)
She wants Singaporeans to do at small spaces at home.

Uncle feels bad for those family man who can only can only get out for a clean rub after the kids sleep...

Bro RoadsterRTM, had upped you with my humble points!

Thank you for the contact for JK spa.

hentaili 09-11-2017 12:14 PM

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Any bros here have idea if the Av has certain quota to meet during raid, etc? Like this time round, the big scale raid on TP and NBR.

Especially this time round, the law was passed in parliament.

Just my tots.

sionglim 09-11-2017 01:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hentaili (Post 16652503)
Any bros here have idea if the Av has certain quota to meet during raid, etc? Like this time round, the big scale raid on TP and NBR.

Especially this time round, the law was passed in parliament.

Just my tots.

, must produce result, n get gal
Red handed.
No solid evidence the court will throw the case out.
So, they very on the ball.

ahhui 09-11-2017 05:39 PM

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they always spot check regularly nowadays almost every week in every district.
ml say their business plummet as they will come once every 3 days suddenly

sionglim 09-11-2017 11:00 PM

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No business can go america what?
Many china man customer there.
From foochow, to newyork

newyorker88 10-11-2017 06:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chuyinyeng (Post 16648956)
~15k is the average, from my knowledge, the catch of attracting girls for coming to SG is 20k per months.

20k per month is average, if ang pai will be 30-50k varying there.

The formula is simple, jz to make it fairly clearer.

50k / 25 days of working excluding Code Red = 2000/ days

2000/ 100/120/150 = 20/17/14 sessions.

still pretty viable for most of the ML. Perhaps this is what they solely wish for.


That means almost non stop taking on of clients. The body need to rest, not to forget there are too many competitors around too.

ris2099 11-11-2017 08:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by newyorker88 (Post 16655848)
That means almost non stop taking on of clients. The body need to rest, not to forget there are too many competitors around too.


Agreed. And bear in mind the to hit this kind of figures, it is assumed that the ML will have this number of costumers consistently everyday which I don't think is quite possible unless the ML is very chio or got some signature moves or something.

M0ntblanc 12-11-2017 12:23 AM

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Not possible... max for ml girl to earn if Ang pai will be around 20k unless u include in the roberts that let them chop maybe got 50k

RoadsterRTM 12-11-2017 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M0ntblanc (Post 16663129)
Not possible... max for ml girl to earn if Ang pai will be around 20k unless u include in the roberts that let them chop maybe got 50k

Old days maybe got...

Now I think unless they hit big Robert or okt favourite n mkt her special attention

Riezboy 12-11-2017 08:41 AM

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AV just raid a spa at outram few days ago.5 girls up lorry with passport confiscated.ML told me "customer" message her ask how much services.She quote price. AV raid check hp and confiscated hp as evidence.Any bros know how long they can hold their passport while pending investigation?


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