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We appreciate the presence of this forum and it is this forum that brought along the colourful aspects of commercial sex but then it brought matters and issues such as PM72’s. Then again, he is mature enough to know the path he is treading on and jolly well knows all the whiplash coming along. He is here to seek advice on getting visas, ROM not to debate if he had made his choice right.

Remember, without us, there is no need for the WLs, without them; there is no existence of this forum. :cool:

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Bro pussyman72 , I guess you have received my PM, although it doesn't help much. Since your thread has already attracted several knowledgable bros. You have already made a trip to MOM, did you give the officer her permit number to check? Yes, her pass is issued by Anti vice dept. but all permits are accounted by controller of MOM what. If MOM replied there's no information for her permit status, then they stand neutral for her marriage. ICA also can't commit to you on your marriage because they are the visa issuing authority.

I guess the main pain-in-the neck issue is to clear her SVP/LTSVP. Marriage shouldn't be a problem liao. I guess, in the end, at most ICA will grant her, like in the past, a one month social visa and she has to return back to her country for another few months. From there you will need to re-apply her social visa thru repeated application and MP visits.

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Bro I share with you my experience......maybe some already mentioned by the bros here but I relate to you anyways....

Almost 10 years ago I decided to marry my cat40 tirak. After 1 and half years of her 2 years contract, we decided she go back to Thailand. She was told by AV she can never ever return to Singapore. She went back and returned with another passport (actually it's her sister's). We ROM and went thru the usual hassle of the monthly visit passes application. Later she got the long term pass when my son was born. Many times she was 'invited' to apply for PR but that wont do because once she does, she will be fingerprinted and the game will be up coz AV got her fingerprints record. So sometimes she got to stay away in Thailand for some months. This is best way because from what I know, ex licenced WL cannot marry Singaporeans and stay here. (correct me if I am wrong). The GL okts which you see with ex WL wives all probably do the same trick. It's not perfect situation but this is best way in my view.

Also ask yourself bro why you want to marry her the 'proper' way? PR/citizenship? HDB flat? Most Thais I know wont want to give up their thai citizenship anyway. And like SC mentioned HDB can go thru 'loophole' when ur 35.....do it this way, I can still 'enjoy' everything...I got the marriage cert to show our union, my son can still be Singaporean, she can stay in Singapore long term, This is best of the worst situation to be in

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Hi Rof|maoxz, oceaneleven & malaysian datuk

Thanks for the advice and understanding me what im going thru.

I will be going down to mom this time to ask them to check, as for her permit no. she cannot remember but mom said they can check her passport no. name and birth date.

as for getting house i dont really need her to be PR so long she able to get long term visit pass it good enough. im able to buy my own house myself. just wants her to be with me here and start a family.

i just wanna make sure everything is clear from her side before we register and then apply for long term visit pass, i dont want her to get into trouble for nothing. PR i dare not to hope for. maybe after a few more yrs i will give it a try but for now a visit pass will be good enough.

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to those that who raise your view about marrying a whore.

just a liitle info about me. i no stranger in WL and FL and i have seen bad n good relationship with this gers. yes they have been in this line so what is the problem if u think the are bunch of whore why still call them for sex when u think about STD AIDS or VD... even u use a cap does it mean u wont catch it....

also without this whore are u able to do your business selling sex videos.....

everyone has a past, everyone has a path to choose whether it bad or good the person have to face it if he have choose to go that path.

To Sam, if im using my dickhead to think i will not go thru the trouble to do so much things. im well aware of this gers capable of doing and im not a brainless person who do not know what this girls are thinking. i can said that i have seen how girls bluff guys money and then fook off. im no stranger in ur forum if u recall who im previously.

If i just wanna have my little bro to enjoy little hole i could have just base the girl there n screw her whenever i go up. i have done that many times not just thailand even in singapore i do that too.

I do not wish to said more only bros who have known me well enough will know what kind of person im.

i appreciate your advice but everyone has a path to go whether is a successful one or a failed one, the person just had to bear it. im not a cry baby coming to the forum n let everyone know i got ditch.....

i share my views and experience to other bros who is involve in this kind of relationships. I dont go insulting their girls cos i understand them very well. some pple just need a lending hand to listen out their problem or maybe giving them some advice. that is what forum are for.

To the bros who wants to talk on this. maybe u can come to this sawadee forum. it use to be very active but it been dead for awhile maybe bros who wants to talk there can maybe post your question or share info over here.

http://p082.ezboard.com/bsawadee85516

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bro pussyman,

not going to talk about moral or ethical issues with u. obviously, u have given your thought on the matter. however, there r some things u need to know.

my ex-gf's mum was a GL WL donkey years ago with a work permit. got to know her husband, who was married at that time, stopped working when she got pregnant by him, which is still ver debatable cos his daughter looked nothing like him. gave birth to her in jb, came over with the daughter to stay until he got divorced several years after. when my ex parents tried to get married in sg, they were told that she is not allowed to get married. forget about pr status, putting her name in hdb flat or a six-mth visa. she needs to get her passport chopped every 2 weeks. so no choice, the WL forced the husband to get married in jb so that she and the daughter can have a legitimate claim on his fortune when he dies. end up the husband stays in jb after he retired cos he only needs to chop the passport monthly.

an ex-colleague of mine also got to know an ex-WL a few years back, gave up his well-paying job, got disowned by his family. now they r living in KL and got married there. Not allowed to get married in SG, and not allowed to get another work permit in SG after the girl has taken a WL permit. she was asked to sign a declaration which is unfair and does not make any sense. the government might have some reason for it, but as usual we do not need to know about it.

however, my ex-colleague seems to be doing well in KL and they recently had a baby daughter, unlike my ex and her mum who r only interested in grabbing as much $ as possible. too bad for the sucker that they didnt have DNA testing then.:(

think whether it works or not depends on the couple, the reasons for being together. love will keep us alive or no money, no honey.

by the way, sammy, nice forum but your comments are clearly out of line. dont remember u posting such antagonising views a few years back. if u were just using some other nick, i would have blamed it on the school holidays. just my worthless thoughts.:cool:

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Bro maddog

wish you all the best...hopefully heaven is kind to you for this time.
You are fated to be with a TG.

cheers

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yo thanks bro, bro what ur real nick previously. u know my old nick too >.< lol

It really happy to see all the old bros here. it been awhile ever since i cut down in cave digging ;)

glad to see the old and new bros who give their support and advice to me. i feel much better now. now i just need to do things one step @ a time.

yes bro i do hope this time i will be successful, there is always a risk but im willing to give it a try again. i love TL and i will always do, nothing can do away this feeling i have for TL and TG.

I have even think for the worst even she cannot come to singapore. she have agree to get married with me in TL n ROM there so will be doing the translation in a couple of months after i find out more about this.

I have a friend going to help me check with his friend who maybe able to link up with ICA . so hopefully he can help me to get some info.

Now a days pple call me KT leow lol KT = Khonthai :D

Cheers n take care mate

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Hi Pussyman

There are few things you really need to clear up.

1. You really need to talk to you girl to find out all the facts clearly...I mean facts and not just she say and think.. to why there a problem for her to come Singapore and what wrong when she was here.
2. When all fact clear and you still want her and still cannot get her to Singapore..consider set her up in JB. It only take 3-4K Rm per year to get a maid visa in Malaysia..I had keep mine there for 3 year before. But you have to be sure you two don't have kid, as this make thing problematic for you and the kid. I know, because of this, I give up PR status and bring mine gers and kid back to HK.
3. You don't need to care other bros say or think, especially in SB, but you have to be really sure that you really love her and that same for her.

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yo thanks bro oldcar

i appreciate your advice. i have actually told my girl to tell me the truth and also try to remember what was being told to her when she left singapore.

cos if not i will have more problem.

If worst case comes, there is high chance i moving up but i hope not cos i need to find something to do that else i cant live there @ all.

if my girl really love me i will give up here but only time will tell. I will only decide that later.

I will still try all way to get her for the good for both of us.

As for others, i dont really care just that i dont like pple insulting my girl, insult me but not her.

cheers bud

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Forum is after all watever people feel like typing which could end up negative or positive & eventually arguments & flaming....To me its like a football match...when the Scoreline is 3-0, some people say the winner is just "Heng"....Some will say the winner will never make mistake to lose...Some will even say "Kelong" lah...it will go on & On...

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This is the main issue in BKK, either you know the language and culture and start a small business or come loaded with surplus to splash. Else looking for a job there is as good as digging your own grave. Still pondering over this. :confused:

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Pussyman72,

I'm sure u r old enough to make yr own decisions, especially on a super big thing such as marriage. Although WL are humans too, it is usually much harder for most people to accept one as wife, especially a GL WL, where numerous (7 to 11 per day x estimated 200 days = 1,400 to 2,200 !!!) men have done her before. Good luck to your imminent marriage. Focus on the big issues. The PR or residence thingy is just a irritation (go and ask yr PAP MP to solve the problem or else threaten to vote for WP but pls vote WP in any case).

Sad to say, I'm also "hook" on to one WL myself although marriage is never in my mind. I dun mind having kids with her but not marriage. Sammyboy may say I'm a loser in love but wat to do? The same logic as to why some incapable people holds big paying jobs while some intelligent and qualified people drive taxis or hold temp jobs.

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I know of a such sad fuck who is currently waiting for his CAT40 tirak to finish her tour of duty so that he could marry her. Everyday he lives in pain when he knows his gal can't answer his call cos must be serving customers. "mouth full-can't talk". He tried to discourage ppls from trying her some more!

Why go through such things?

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kio kway and marrying a kway is different.

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I can tell you this. Those ppls in SIR will tell you that it is not that it is impossible for a CAT40 WL to come back to Singapore to marry but they will also not tell you what to do and how to go around doing it! You yourself have gone there b4 and see what happened. Sillypore civil servants are like that. If can push, sure push. I tjink they have seen so many cases liek yours over the years that they already sian 1/2.

No point trying to beat the legal system here. Better to pack up and move to Thailand. See your gal in her natural environment. It might trun out to be a blessing in disguise.

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Bro, no dept will say "NO. You can't marry her!. Similarly no dept will say "Yes.". They will just push the ball around. A war of attrition. They hope to wear you down so that you will give up.

Anyone tried calling govt bodies like PUB, NPB and other govt bodies will kena put on long call waiting........................................... .................................................. .................................................. ...........................................

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Ask MP for help? Who is your MP? I think he/she will ask you to re-consider first or ask you to join SDU. No MP will write a letter on this for you. If he/she really write to SIR, do you think Wong K.S. will allow?

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hi pussyman72, my friend's wife working in ICA.i can ask for you, what you want to know.but my guess is that won't be a good news

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I really wish I can help, but I got limitation. :(

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Bro, to put things simply, its your life, and do whatever makes you happy. Human beings are naturally judgemental, but we can only see from the outside, and give advices based on common beliefs, perceptions and the socially acceptable paths of life. However, only you know what truly makes you happy, and you are in the best position to make an informed decision. We bros may say things that are not pleasant to your ears, but it's undisputable that its all for your best interests, even if it sound harsh, and may turn out to be sour. So, i say again, do whatever makes you happy... Cheers.

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like that no good lah. If taking drugs make one person happy, should we just say" Never mind, just do what make you happy."? if we know it is wrong, then we must say so what.

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how to help him when he and only him can help himself.

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i can't believe it, time and time again
there are people who wants to marry a kway?

yes indeed 'kio kway and marry kway is 2 different thing'

a kway dun enjoy sex as much as a girl next door.
a kway has a busted pussy

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that's why the moive "Pretty Woman" was a box office hit. There are many ppls who wanna to marry a kway. But do you know why there was never a squeal or "Pretty Woman 2"? Cos Richard Gere tried to bring Julia Roberts back to his high society life style and circle of frens but was made fun and chided by many when they know that Julia Robert was a PRO. In the end. Richard and Julia parted and Julia Roberts went back to being a PRO/Kway.

The only ppls who eventually married Thai Kways are those poor Thai Farmers and those drunkard Thais.

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If drugs is the only source of joy for a patient who is terminally ill, then i say, WHY NOT ??? However, to most, drugs are not a source of enjoyment, but a wrongly perceived escape route from their problems. They are using drugs to avoid the pain, rather than confront them and get them solved. Drugs, to most, are a coward way of running away from problems, cos unless they are eradicated, they will always be there. What am i talking about anyway ?? :confused:

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I myself work in the gov for 6 yr i know their cb taiji also. i already expected this. nvm i will just slowly work my way n see how. moreover i did told my girl it going to be 2 yrs b4 we settle down. which going to be end of next yr.

i have to be sure she is real to me b4 i make the last move.

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yo bro korb

this is only 2 things i wanna know which also in turn help the bros here who involve with a geylang ger relationship here.

can u help to check if this girls are able to get married to a singaporean after they finish their work (finish work permit) in singapore if so how long before they can get married.

2nd is after they have termintate their work permit how long is the restriction before they can come back to singapore for social visit.

also maybe can check whether is there any other restriction when this girls sign the paper which they will have problem in the future marrying a singapore man.

ICA officer this is their internal policy and they cannot review much. so i was having alot difficulty talking to them. which i have already expected.

so if u can help to find this info it will be great to help bros here who is involve with a GL girl and let them consider whether they wanna carry on or not.

so far i have already hear 1 news that 1 bro's friend able to marry his gf by pushing very hard to the mp. but that is only a special case not everyone will have the luck.

Cheers

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Then meanwhile, u just chop the short term social visit passes. Because it will take some while and some chops before you can make her social visit pass into a long term pass.

Govt policies as u know have been there for years. Wouldn't change because of 1 incident, or change for the better over the next 2 yrs

So for these 2 yrs, u can also judge for yourself what kind of person she is. And also a test of time to see whether u can withstand the pressure all around u.

I do heard of some ex-Cat40 girls came back to SG for short visits shortly after ORD. I also heard of those who kenna jail term after coming back.

If the girl is very honest with the authorities, they will at least more willing to help rather than those who try to snake their way around thinking they are smart.

SC

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yo bro AXL thanks for sharing with me n the bros here. there are some good ones n there is some bad one. we just have to gamble and see how things will go.

if something u see is not right u just have to telll urself wait what is happening here better look into it. if is really bad just chop n move on.

im not a greenhorn going to let them take advantage to me, i can be nice n loving to them but if they make stuns i will note it down n if need to chop n move on to next girl.

be it a decent or non decent it all the same shit. decent girls now adays fook ard behind their bf back. i have seen so many of this. best one was my friend's gf become wife then she fook ard with my another friend who we always go out drinking with. that is one of it i have seen of course there are many too.

so just take one step @ a time if all turns out well then maybe my ger and me really together and have a family else bo bian i just had to move on. not like our bro sam here said dont come crying in the forum. i will not cry but i will share with bros if it really happen to be cos @ least bros here know.

Im not new in this games i have been burn big time and i know my stand and i always wants to share with bro. as i said b4 there are good ones and bad one it all depend ur luck. it whether u wanna gamble it